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Hi, first of all 'kudoss' & congrats on the site. I'm a first timer..so pls be gentle. Sorry in advance for a thread. To the job at hand, I inherited from great grandfather a ww2 sword many a year ago. I remember the day as a kid, him showing & telling me all the stories. From that very first day as a kid, (think I claimed it!) I always kept my eye on it. Now 40ish, I blew the dust of it 3-4 mths ago & thought I'd give it another look. My dad's m8 had a go long ago & told us 'it's nothing, military made, standard thing pumped out in the day, not worth 1-2 hundred maybe, cr*p!..' and that's what my dad thought ever since, but not me i still though mine(only seen a cool sword). Here's what I've got so far, the mei (i hope!) is Noshu ju Kanenobu & was made in showa period march 1944. The blade is shinto style and tachi in length at a little over 27". The nakago is star & arsenal stamped + 'ho' stamped on mune. Slight gunome hamon, bit rough, but still sharp as 70 odd yrs on, since sharpened!. In shin-gunto type-3 military mount. It came with a tag, since learnt possible surrender tag(thought name tag).. That's where I'm part stuck.. So far I've got, Rikugun shoi, army sec.sub lieutenant, Okazaki eiiki? eiichi? aichi? Thats all I got. Anyone that would be able to translate it & check the mei+date & be able to tell a little more info. on sword 2 cross reference mine(so i can tell my dad it's not the cr*p sword like he thinks). Since I live in the land of kangaroos & koalas (Aust.) I would love to have the blade professionally sharpened & polished, but am very limited on options. Would anyone know of someone that can be trusted to do the job?!?(I know really only Japan) but you got to ask. Is the blade worth the polish? Or? is the polish worth more than the blade?! Pls post reply, any info. is all good. Sorry again for length of thread. Cheers, check out pics.
Hi all, My name is Wouter and i currently live and work form the Czech Republic. I have studied Japanology and always dreamed of possessing a "katana". Last week I risked my first buy and discovered your forum. Before bothering you with my questions, I would like to thank every contributor to this forum. The information I have found so far has been extremely useful and only augmented my fascination. Please do forgive my lack of knowledge and making this new topic so long. These are my questions: 1. I discovered that the exact same gunto I currently possess has been described here. Please do refer to that site for the pictures of blade, tang and fittings. Yes, the year is incorrect, since Showa 17 is 1942, not 43 as written on that site. They are however correct when saying that the previous owner has "destroyed" the polish and making it impossible to "read" the blade (IE determine if it is gendaito). The Hamon is dead and only visible in 2 spots. I have discovered that there are 3 stamps on the Mune. A Mei, or Nagoya arsenal inspection stamp and a Ho inspection stamp. these are followed by a stamped number 1. This number matches with the tsuba and spacers. There is however no star stamp on the tang, but there are nowhere any arsenal stamps (apart from the inspection stamps). Since the date on this gunto is Sho 17, being the year when the star stamp system got implemented, does this mean that it is not a gendaito? Now I have found this "Gendaito", which is almost exactly the same, including the arsenal inspection stamps on the mune. They describe it as hand forged. This brings me to question 2: The gunto is signed "Seki-Ju Kanetomo". The seller from whom i bought the gunto assigned the signature to Ryūminsai Kanetomo (born as Kiribuchi Mataishi). I found out both are listed as members of the Rikugun Jumei Tosho, but Ryuminsai (KAN2550) is from Gunma, while Seki refers to the city in Mino province, Gifu prefecture. There is about 300 km between both prefectures? Also the Mei (signature) of Ryūminsai Kanetomo is: 上野住人龍眠齋兼友作 “Kozuke Junin Ryūminsai Kanetomo Saku”. Would he also sign as “Seki-ju Kanetomo Saku”? To add to the confusion, the "gendaito" offered via the second link I provided translates the Mei as KANETOMO Kiribuchi (rated one million yen smith in slough's book, pg.69, medium to high grade gendaito, 1st seat 1941 sword exhibition) Are these 3 different persons, or one and the same? Sorry for having made this first entry so long. I do hope you will be able to shed some light on these questions. they have kept me awake for over a week now... Thank you very much in advance, Wouter PS If you are interested in the purchasing history of this gunto. I have reached out to my seller and he confirms it is the same gunto as on quanoline.com. He has bought it from a Czech-American selIer 4 years ago, and he had it from militaryitems.com.
I believe there are some fans of Shibata on the board. Just in case you haven't seen it, take a peek. http://www.samuraishokai.jp/sword/16119.html I have no affiliation with the site, but have bought a couple nice swords from him and the transactions went smoothly. I'd buy from them again.
WW2 Japanese officers type 98 Shin-Gunto Nakago: Signed Emura Saku, maker of medium to high grade gendaito. With dent where it was struck by a bullet in battle. Blade: Is nice and straight, no bends. 65.6 cm from top of nakago to kissaki with a nice straight suguha hamon, blade in wartime polish with a very occasional spot of light pitting and one very small nail catcher nick less than 1mm just below the kissaki. The saya is painted a sandy brown colour and is in very good condition, without any scratches or dents. Locking mechanism also in good working order. The fittings are excellent quality, the tsuba, seppa and fuchi all have matching numbers ‘8’. The ito wrap is very nice and tsuka has brass fittings, including sarute with cherry blossom. The Tsuka is a replacement to the blade but is original and fits perfectly, the original Tsuka was damaged in battle by a bullet and we be included with the sword as a extra bit of added history. £1500 includes tracked postage within Europe. Item will be packaged in correct manner with lots of padding for protection in transit. Europe only, check laws of your country to make sure you can import swords. Buyer is solely responsible for confiscation, loss or damage of item.
All, It dawned on me, since the Japanese Sword Index is now maintained by the NMB, that we could now expand/update the oshigata database to include more examples of existing smiths as well as add some that are missing. This site was vital for me as a new collector, when I had a rather paltry book collection - mainly Slough's, and I still occasionally visit it when trying to help newer members here quickly/when mobile. I think it would be excellent if we could update this site and that it would be beneficial not just for us, but for others in the community that are looking for information on Showa era smiths. Is there any support or willingness to take on this update? I would be happy to assist in anyway possible.
Hello Gents, I have recently been looking at Koshirae in more detail and have come across a few Tsuka where Samegawa has not been used, they all just happen to be in Gunto mounts. The first couple of pics could either be low quality same or another material, The second pic comes from a Amahide blade on the UK to-ken society sword register. Finally the last couple of pics come from a Tsuka currently for sale on Ebay. What is the material used, it is described as doe skin or leather? and is it only used on Gunto, maybe because of a war time material shortage? Does anyone else have examples of this to share? Regards, Adam
After some consideration and a large amount of emails/phone calls regarding my participation on here it has become apparent that a little perspective on my thoughts of the future of Nihonto as an art form (shinsakuto) and what I feel may seriously affect its continued survival especially outside of Japan. Disclaimer: this is just an opinion based on my observations so chances are some might disagree. Working outside of Japan as a craftsman means that I see more oddities and questionable swords on a regular basis than most, some are obviously not Nihonto and some just leave us stumped. While it would be ideal to just see true quality Nihonto all the time the truth is outside of Japan it isnt always going to be likely . Instead I on a daily basis get emails with very unresearched questions and often aggressive attitudes with pictures of all sorts. . . I have also learnt that there are no definites only educated guesses. . . not every odd looking blade is a "chinese fake"! So by default I can now recognise the fakes etc relatively easy but no I dont know much on the paul chen, hanwei or what ever brand of who made what, when etc. . . . just not my thing I am however seeing some impressive fakes and they are only going to get better. . . and I would prefer to be on the top of the game. Now if you collect Koto blades chances are you are not going to have to worry to much about said issue but Gendai or even shinshinto then could be an issue as for shinsakuto . . most definately It seems (going by memory of past threads) that this topic stirs a lot of emotions and the kind gentle folk sometimes become obnoxious bakemono . The problem is real and it is not going away so without civil discussion and shared information it will continue its cancerous spread through the gates of ignorance (i should stop watching "the Tick"). I like many others like quality shinsakuto (maybe its all those years bladesmithing) they, if nurtured will one day become historical art pieces. . . I for one would hope that I have facilitated in that journey during my time in this hobby. Just some thoughts to ponder so please be nice. . I have the Flu Kam One of my favourite Shinsakuto. . probably the best example from Hidehisa
Collectors--I have 15 swords currently for sale. Photos and descriptions of the swords can be seen on my website: www.StCroixBlades.com. To see all of the swords, click on 'SHOP', then 'Japanese SWORDS'. I'll have room for a little price negotiation on most swords. I can be reached at email@example.com for any questions. Thank you!