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Thanks, Conway! From the few snippits I've seen, it's a really pretty book without as much meat as Dawson's and the other previous go-tos. A friend bought a Type 32 a few days ago and needed to ask me for photos from Dawson and Fuller/Gregory. He has the new Plimpton's book, and it didn't cover what he needed beyond "hey, you bought a Type 32."

For those of you who purchased Headstamp Publishing’s “Swords of the Emperor” by John Plimpton, how does it compare to Dawson’s “Cyclopedia”? Plimpton’s book looks beautiful, but I’m worried that it won’t add much information for the collector. I already own Dawson, Fuller/Gregory etc. At $130 plus shipping, I don’t want to buy something duplicative when I could put the money to something else.
 

Anyone have opinions on if the book is worth it if you’ve already got a decent library? 

Looks like a wonderful show. I wasn’t able to make it this year, but maybe next! I also introduced someone next door in Ohio to the forum and the show and hope he’ll get more excited throughout the year and attend next time. For the moment, I just love vicariously enjoying everyone’s new purchases.

Is it possible to please get some more/clearer photos of the registration kanji? There’s likely a year date there too, using the two-symbol Jikkan Junisbi system. Thank you! 

I wish I was back in Kyushu and could attend. I’m very jealous! My first Nihonto is a Bungo-to Fujiwara Yukinaga. A school that mixes art with purpose and takes the best from all others.

If they allow it, could we trouble you to please take some photos and post them here?

If youre saying goodbye to this beauty, then please post the photos of whatever piece you purchase! Absolutely amazing sword here. I LOVE the naginata naoshi style and wish I was anywhere close to being able to purchase this. 
 

Best wishes on the sale. Someone’s going to be a lucky new owner!!

@PNSSHOGUN Regarding the Kiri-Mon, I had looked up the picture of the mon previously and saw it was tied to the Toyotomi clan. However, with your naming it, then I found it’s a symbol of either the Japanese government or with this 3-5-3 Paulownia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Seal_of_Japan ), a symbol of the Japanese Imperial Guard. So, this wouldn’t represent the carrier's family but instead that he was a solider in the Imperial Guard?

@PNSSHOGUN thanks! It was the nicest mounts I’ve seen on a kyu in person, and I did love the feel of the longer tzuka. Part of it is fate, in that the shop isn’t in my area but I’ll be there this spring, so if it’s still available, I’ll see if the owner will entertain offers.

Thanks @Bruce Pennington! I didn’t have funds saved up and didn’t want to bother the shop owner knowing I wouldn’t purchase anything, so I erred on my full check up (and photos) of the sword. When I go, checking the nakago will be critical. 
 

Thanks for extra context on pricing. From dealers’ swords, I thought it was a little under even. 
 

$3k Mumei shinshinto - https://www.artswords.com/a_nice_katana_mounted_in_Imperial_Japanese_kyu_Gunto_Mounts_042508.htm

$2900 - another Mumei shinshinto - https://japanesesword.com/for-sale-pages/2017/9/25/shinto-katana-in-d-guard-mounts

I’ve got a baby on the way, so I’m saving my pennies little by little for a hopeful late spring 2022 purchase. I’ve always loved Kyu Gunto given Meiji history and the East meets West quality. 
 

I ran into this one at a military antiques store for $1950. I didn’t notice until later that my photos of the sword itself are bad (can’t see hada or hamon), but it’s a Shinshinto mumei (allegedly, I didn’t ask to disassemble). 
 

Thoughts on the price of the package? Saya looks good and the d-guard appears frosty to me, plus there’s a mon. Sword is probably nothing amazing but was Nihonto. At $2k though, it’s where I want to be able to resell and not lose money if necessary in order to fund a bigger purchase down the line.

Edit -I apologize  for the photos being the wrong way; I’ve never had that problem and can’t seem to fix it.

Third from the bottom. Also, look at the MASSIVE type 19. I’m 6’2” and it was so awkward to hold; I wondered if it was only a display piece.

3 hours ago, NihontoCollector said:

Not sure but the Tadayoshi looked the most interesting to me. I have to few Oshigata especially for the 9th generation. Would have liked to hear Roger Robertshaws oppinion on it.

I spent a long time looking at oshigatas and noticed numerous kanji that were way off. I am absolutely no expert, but I thought it was gimei and steered clear.

The $17k is just bonkers to me. You’re approaching Juyo prices at that high!!! I wonder if it’s two people with sentimentality attached to it. Maybe two people who each thought they would inherit it from the gentleman whose estate it was in and they didn’t inherit, so they bid against each other. Unless we’re all bamboozled, it’s got to be something like that.

Holy cow! Thanks for saving me some time on the cormorant’s neck price. I had bid $550 beforehand but was going back on forth on going a little higher. Nice to know I was always going to lose (at $3k you could get something much nicer - papered, fittings etc).

That sugata seems difficult to find; hardly any hits on the forum here. I think they’re beautiful though!

@gun addictOh wow, what a beautiful set!! I think I’m saving my pennies for a kyu next. I love the East-meets-West aspect of them.
 

Would you mind please sharing what price you paid? You could PM me too if you don’t want to publicly. I ask because I haven’t many for sale in person, so I’m left chasing online bidding  and wondering what the general fair market is right now.

Regardless, congratulations on a gorgeous addition.

@Bruce Pennington I did! You were actually kind enough to help me with connecting the dots on the signature and identifying it as late war:

Love Kai Guntos! Here’s my late war one with a plain wood saya covered by a leather combat cover.

On 9/12/2021 at 8:53 PM, Bruce Pennington said:

And that Masashige is one of those dang RS with an NCO tassel. 

Noticed that too. But depending on how the bidding goes, not a bad deal for a late-war saya and star stamped gendaito and the buyer could recoup some of the money by selling the tassel.

Got overly excited by 300, but then I studied a bunch of oshigata side by side with the mei, and I think it’s gimei.

Regarding the auction house’s goofs, they do have over 600 lots and just 30ish swords in not wonderful shape, so priorities probably went elsewhere.

@Jussi Ekholm Others had the same read: 

its currently at $600: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/111347277_vintage-Japanese-katana-sword

It’ll be interesting to see where it goes.

I also saw 286 and thought the same thing! Glad my eyes are catching sugata others too thought were worth catching. 
 

I tossed some modest bids on a couple hoping the smaller auction house would fly under the radar (I’m from IA and was hoping I could sneak a win). I did lots of research and narrowed down my selection and placed my bids….But then I also learned they’d partnered with both LiveAuctioneer and Invaluable…. And I’d already been outbid before I’d even placed my own bids directly on the site 🤦‍♂️🙄
 

Did anyone else have a suspicious eyebrow raise on this one? Something about the tsuba, mei and kanji spacing, and horimono have me nervous for a potential buyer: https://jacksonsauction.com/catalogs/2021/SEP/detail/default.aspx?ID=286

Looks sharp! Did your wakizashi fit the koshirae, or will it just be for display? Always seems like a tricky proposition, marching a blade with a non-custom-made mounting.

Thank you, Steve!

Could someone please help me with this two character mei? I've stared at the new kanji charts on the forum for awhile and am struggling.

And my amateur transcription attempt:

4 minutes ago, mtexter said:

So here are some links to other threads I started on the complete blades that Grandpa brought back:

Type 98 - https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/33084-type-98-my-cousins/?tab=comments#comment-342680

Type 97 - https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/33233-type-97/?tab=comments#comment-344312
Kuniyuki Wakizashi - https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/33129-kuniyuki-wakizashi/?tab=comments#comment-343294

Mumei Tanto - https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/33165-mumei-tanto/?tab=comments#comment-343700

There are imgur links for all but the type 98 which belongs to my cousin, so I got what I could from that.  May pay him a visit if people are interested to see more on that one.  

Cheers everyone,

 

Thank you so much, Mike! Looking forward to perusing these

1 hour ago, Steven Edmund said:

Hope you don't mind but I'm going to wait till I have it in my hands before I kiss and tell.

Love it! We’ll look forward to the photos

@Tanto54 incredibly interesting! Thank you for the very thorough and thoughtful reply. I really appreciate the insights.

@Steven Edmundooh, so tell! Do you have the link to which one you got? There were a number of them I was tempted by but have run out of real spending money for a time.

52 minutes ago, Tanto54 said:

Dear Michael, my guess would be that it is what it purports to be - a late generation Kinmichi (not particularly valuable, but a reasonable price in my opinion).

Thanks for commenting! Not knowing this school at all, I didn't want to guess, but the things I mentioned just looked off. On the other hand, the NTHK NPO kantei worksheet gives it some credence. Could you please say more about why you thought the mei was genuine?