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I reduce the asking price to 5600€ obo.
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Georg, I guess you read the title of this thread, right ? I called it a wakizashi from the Kiyomaro mon to underline the fact that there is still room for suspicion about who exactly from the above mentioned school made this blade. Rivkin thinks he knows everything about me, my generation and this particular sword. He is nothing more than a nasty moron who wants to be important. His knowledge is nothing that I can not find in books or online. I don’t want to educate anyone here about the question what can be seen in Ray‘s pictures. I think everyone here can find kantei information about Kiyomaro and his mon online and judge by themselves if this naginata naoshi fits the characteristics sufficient or not. As I wrote before, a more or less definite result can only be issued by a NBTHK shinsa.
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Rivkin, you try to say aufrichtig und gradlinig… Please don’t abuse my native language. I am in no way part of the pc movement. I only show some kind of contenance towards subjects like you. Otherwise I would show you quite bluntly what kind of traditional German I am.
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The new asking price is 5900€ obo.
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I know how slowly things can work out nowadays. Nonetheless I am in no hurry to get the shinsa results. I will probably send the wakizashi in the next few months to a shinsa agent, who will hopefully be able to show the sword to Tanobe Sensei prior to the NBTHK evaluation. I own and enjoy this naginata naoshi since February 2022 and I won’t sell it neither with papers nor without any kanteisho.
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Hello Georg, I plan to ship the wakizashi next year to Japan for a NBTHK hozon shinsa. Besides I want to hear Tanobe Sensei‘s opinion about this sword before the submission. I will also ask some craftsmen to build a new shirasaya and a new habaki for this naginata naoshi. All the best
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https://www.aoijapan.net/katana-mumei-yamaura-kiyomaro/ https://www.aoijapan.net/wakizashi-mumei-den-kiyomaro/ Here are the Aoi Art links to the mentioned swords made by Kiyomaro
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Aoi has sold at least two mumei Kiyomaro blades in the past. One katana and one naginata naoshi wakizashi. Both are suriage and mumei. Both have hozon status.
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I see nothing but envy and resentment in your words, but that is okay: some collectors know these feelings in such situations. A prime example is Georg’s thread about his Masayuki. The majority supports the collector and his finding on the way to shinsa, but a small minority tries to blame a sword as gimei, only to get rid of their frustration and envy.
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Thank you, Simon. I will send the wakizashi next year to Japan for a hozon shinsa. Perhaps I can even get a Tanobe Sensei sayagaki for a new made shirasaya.
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Thank you for the replies. These pictures were taken by Ray Singer, so I don‘t know which techniques he used. Ray sold me this wakizashi last year as a commission piece. He never owned it. This naginata naoshi doesn’t have a high class Japanese made shirasaya. The current shirasaya was probably made in the US. The polish is excellent and seems to be very old. I am quite sure this sword was not in Japan for a very long time.
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Thank you very much.
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Hello Gents, I want to share with you some pictures of my Kiyomaro mon naginata naoshi o wakizashi, which I bought last year from Ray Singer. Although it is mumei, it is a ubu sword with a nagasa of 51,5cm. The possibility that Kiyomaro himself made this great soshu den wakizashi is very high. A final attribution should be given by a NBTHK shinsa. I hope you enjoy. All the best
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I reduce the asking price to 6000€ or best offer. Besides I post directly some of Marco‘s great pictures, which can all be found in the above posted google link. All the best Stefan
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I am open for reasonable offers.
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Thanks to our fellow member Marco ( mareo1912 ), who made these great looking pictures, I can show that this Yasunori has a good old sashikomi polish, that especially highlights the hamon and other activities of this yasukunito. https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1gJSl1qIF7yngcW9LmUeUiPEWv2Rcb4Hy?usp=sharing
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Collectibles in general are falling off
Sutraken replied to drbvac's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
To give an actual example for a nihonto related anime: the first episode of the third season Demon Slayer Kimetsu no Yaiba was released last Sunday in Japanese with English subtitles. The name of the current arc is to the swordsmith village. Some very aesthetic images of sword forging and other things related are shown quite accurate for a mainstream anime. In the first season they even show tamahagane. On the other side I am relatively sure most members here won’t like the anime that much, because off its sense of humor. I love the manga and the anime even more, so perhaps it will have a positive impact on the nihonto community, especially for the younger ones. -
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Thank you, Volker.
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Okay, now I understand your point. The ubu-ba is not there, so the Yasunori was repolished. This second polish was in my opinion done before the end of WW2. My conclusion is that this Yasukunito was carried into battle and repolished before August 1945.
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The polish was done in WW2, so I think these pictures may be more convenient for the eye. Besides I used the link to Ed Marshall‘s listing, because he made way better pictures than I am able to.
