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I have not been able to find much information concerning katakiri-ba blades.

Compared to traditional blades, they look about as interesting as hocho kitchen knives with their flat blades. Why did some sword makers much such flat blades? Was it easier to make, to be massed produced for armies? Did it entail as much folding as traditional blades? Are they rare?

 

Thank you very much!

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Hi,

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It you are refering to katakiri-ha zukuri blades, then they were definitely not made that way because they are easier to forge, and weren't common to arm soldiers with either. In fact I expect they are special order blades or made by certain smiths as better than average blades.

Quite unusual, although not rare.

Here is a nice example: http://www.ksky.ne.jp/~sumie99/Uda.html

Usually seen on tanto, although I have seen wakizashi. Haven't seen katana, but no doubt they exist.

 

Brian

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Please don't forget to sign all posts with a first name and initial.
KATANAKO

Hmmm, I somehow don't think that's what Brian meant ... ;)

 

Btw - and since you stated your full name in an earlier thread - are you by any chance the WWII Japanese aviation author?

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Here is the katakiriha Sadamune, pictured here with really nice jutetsu pieces +.

http://www.jp-sword.com/files/masamune/masamune.html

 

I have a Kaifu school piece that is shobu-zukuri on one side and katakiriha-zukuri on the other. I cannot even find that sugata type in a book. It seems very unique and thats why I like it.

 

Maybe the katakiriha-zukuri shape makes for a stronger edge??? Probably easier to sharpen too.

 

Jon

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Here is the katakiriha Sadamune, pictured here with really nice jutetsu pieces +.

http://www.jp-sword.com/files/masamune/masamune.html

 

I have a Kaifu school piece that is shobu-zukuri on one side and katakiriha-zukuri on the other. I cannot even find that sugata type in a book. It seems very unique and thats why I like it.

 

Maybe the katakiriha-zukuri shape makes for a stronger edge??? Probably easier to sharpen too.

 

Jon

Having just introduced myself and begun trawling this vast and wondrous website, it's time to offer something back and this KIRIHA thread offers an opportunity. Now, I'm going to embed some links that should give thumbnails of my Echizen Shimosaka Kiriha katana (thinking here of download limited dialup connections) and also give ImageShack links to higher rez images. I pray I don't stuffup.

 

First the thumbnails, if I read ImageShack correctly and NMB is a FORUM and not a WEBSITE:

 

img1705croppu1.th.jpg

 

img1714cropcv2.th.jpg

 

img1711cropia4.th.jpg

 

img1720cropresize40hq8.th.jpg

 

My understanding is that the above are thumbnails. If by misunderstanding they are full rez links I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to do it properly, aside from downsizing my own images myself.

 

Now here are the hi-rez direct links that shouldn't pop a picture in here:

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/6382 ... roppu1.jpg

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3233 ... ropcv2.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/433/ ... ropia4.jpg

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3571 ... e40hq8.jpg

 

Many people have thought this sword is suriage mumei, but I believe it was made "as is" to be a copy of a Sadamune around Keichou era. Certainly it is similar to the KIRIHA SADAMUNE in "nihonto1001"s link above, but I have heard that there is an o-suriage mumei sword called the ATAKI SADAMUNE, but I have never been able to find an image of it. I had this sword for 25 years before I was game enough to get it polished. In the wrong hands it would have been a disaster, such as some polishes that can be seen from time-to-time here... As I got it was bent, rusted and very slightly chipped. It came with a saya, habaki and tsuka, everything else being stripped and lost including kozuka and kogai. It had been in a leather covered saya as the gunto-style hanger was still on the saya. It has a mukansa level sashikomi polish and an NBTHK Hozon paper.

 

OK - let's see if this flies.

 

Regards,

Barry Thomas

(Melbourne, Australia)

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Barry,

Almost... :-) Redid and fixed the links.

When using imageshack, use the first link marked "Hotlink for forums (1)"

The syntax is: www.thumbnail.com

Check out the How-To section for more instructions on uploading pics. Thanks for the info, that is a stunning and unusual katana! It went to war?

 

Brian

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I saw the thumbnails just fine a couple of minutes ago, but now there are only little red crosses ... :dunno:

 

Barry, working from memory (since the pics are gone) I don't think your blade is a 1:1 copy (Utsushimono) of the Kiriha Sadamune (see attached scan).

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OH DEAR - I have done something incredibly stupid. I deleted the images from ImageShack. Can't image why, must have been a Southern Hemisphere mind warp - I won't even attempt to explain what went on in my mind - BUT - here they are again. Of course the links are new because I've had to upload them again. My apologies to all who dare venture here...

 

img1705cropst9.th.jpg

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img1720cropresize40le2.th.jpg

 

Barry Thomas.

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