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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:40 am 
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Hi Everyone,

I'm back from my two week honeymoon in Japan and still recovering from the jet-lag. I been doing some research on the Internet this afternoon on a new item added to my collection that was acquired in Tokyo. I have not be able to find a list of the former presidents of the NBTHK. The time period I am most interested in the early seventies around 1970. Thanks for taking the time to help.



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From Dean Hartley's papers: http://home.comcast.net/~colhartley/Ori ... praisa.htm
This is from 1965:
"Currently the two foremost living authorities on Japanese swords are at the Museum. These are Dr. Junji Homma, president of the NBTHK, and Dr. Kanzan Sato."
Dr. Homma was still Chairman in 1976 from the introduction to, 'Nippon To The Japanese Sword", Japan Society, NY.

Therefore he was most likely the head of the NBTHK at the time you reference.

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Hi Pete K.,

Thanks for the quick reply and the information. For the English title of chairmen is the Japanese title kaicho (會長) used? Was their a chairmen of the NBTHK with a surname of Hosokawa (細川) in 1970?



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Why not write the NBTHK-AB board and ask them?

PS: it's 'there'.

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Hi Pete K.,

Thanks for the correction of my grammar. Yes being a dues paying member of the NBTHK has its uses. Just sent my question to a director who I am on good terms with and has helped me before.



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could be the head of a Shinsa group in which case kaicho could be appropos

in Kendo and Iaido the head of the event (taikai) would be referred to as Kaicho (event boss) usually but not always chief judge - and rarely will this same person be the head of the federation involved...

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Dear Tom H.,

You might be right. I did a quick search of "NBTHK Tokubetsu Kicho" using Google Images and found a few examples of both swords and fittings with similar papers issued in the late 1960s with the additional line. It is different then the one discussed here: http://www.nihontocraft.com/japanese_sword_papers.html#japanese_sword_2 dated 1974. Below is a scan of my paper with what I am referring to. The additional line is to the left and starts with kaicho (會長).



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@David: You can find all the NBTHK presidents at the site of the NBTHK:

http://www.touken.or.jp/gaiyou/kaicho.html

Your name in question is Hosokawa Moritatsu, the first president depicted
at the top left. He was in office from 1948-1970.

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Well, it's the "Nihon Bijutsu Tôken Hozon Kyôkai", so the president is "Kaichô" :D. Hosokawa Moritatsu was president in the sixties and passed away in 1970.


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Oops, Markus posted while I was typing ... :oops:


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Hi Markus S., and Guido S.,

Thanks so much for replies and additional information. I was sure the information was some where on the NBTHK website in Japanese. The date on my paper is 1970 which makes sense. I wasn't questioning the authenticity as I puchased tsuba along with the paper from Ginza Choshuya (http://www.choshuya.co.jp/) which has a very good reputation I just never noticed this difference in some of the early NBTHK papers. I will post some photographs of the tsuba in the other forum when I get a chance to take them. This will likely be over the weekend.



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