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#301 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 07:18 PM

I don't recall seeing these stamps on this thread yet (if it is, please let me know and I'll delete this!)

From Alex, as seen for sale via the web, a contractor and inspector stamp on a Kokura Arsenal Type 95 gunto. As far as I can find, the contractor stamp is legit, but classed "Unknown". Any ideas on the inspector stamp? My guess is the "Ho" of Kokura 1st.

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#302 IJASWORDS

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 08:00 AM

Don't know if this qualifies, but there are definite stamps on both sides of the drag on a KAI GUNTO from my collection.

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 08:54 AM

Neil,
I believe I have read that this was a patent number. It is described on Ohmura's site, but it's in Japanese:

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若瀬軍刀製作所(東 京市芝區)の商標  裏: 第213917號

I think that's the same number as yours, so it most likely is a patent number and not a serial number.

As always, leave it to you to have a very beautiful example of every variation of the gunto!!! I love it!

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 05:47 PM

My shin gunto chape has the same patent number.

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 06:51 PM

I don't recall seeing these stamps on this thread yet (if it is, please let me know and I'll delete this!)
From Alex, as seen for sale via the web, a contractor and inspector stamp on a Kokura Arsenal Type 95 gunto. As far as I can find, the contractor stamp is legit, but classed "Unknown". Any ideas on the inspector stamp? My guess is the "Ho" of Kokura 1st.

Here is both the Kokura "Ho" and Kokura First Arsenal "Ko." on a nakago mune.


 Army Arsenal Kokura Factory - Kokura Army Arsenal inspection mark: "Ko".
 "Ko" stamp is not discovered except for the following example. It seems that the inspection mark
 used the "To" commonly since most Tokyo Factories relocated to Kokura Factory.


 Army Arsenal Kokura First Factory inspection mark: "Ho"

The Ko is above the Ho, and fainter.

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#306 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:26 PM

OK, this might qualify for its own thread, the moderators might want to spin it off. If so, would you pin it so we can add to it as time goes by? I've been seeing several sepia and tsuba with undecipherable Kanji. My theory is that they are a Logo of the craftsman or the company making the fittings, sort of like the curvy checkmark of Nike shoes. I've tried the "Translations" forum and haven't had any takers on translation.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:01 PM

read better blade edge up


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:11 PM

read better blade edge up

Thanks Stephen!  After all this time, it never occurred to me that about the orientation of seppa and tsuba kanji!!!  For the life of me, though, that tsuba pic, no matter what I do to it, the photo upload software is posting blade-down!!!!



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:30 PM

Two more:

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 02:55 AM

ive not seen this before, how about you?

 

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on a seki stamp Kanetaka

 

  one of the RIA swords


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#311 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 06:06 PM

No.  I even did a short search on other Kanetaka blades, and don't see it on the few I could find pictures of.  It is so well imprinted, it almost locks fake, though I not saying that it is!  There is a word for these personalized smith stamps.  Looks like he came up with one at some time in his career.  Very interesting one!



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Posted 22 April 2017 - 08:14 PM

I think the word you're looking for is Kokuin. This is interesting since most (all that I've seen) are a representation - sometimes highly stylized - of their name. I don't see Kanetaka in this stamp (but I have been known to be quite dense).

Edit - Yup. Dense. Kanetaka is there...
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 02:38 AM

Like me - slow but trainable!
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