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#1 roger dundas

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 10:46 AM

Purchased in 2012 as bronze plate, a small amount of surface oxidation could be seen.

 

Could I ask for clarification of maker and smith please and an idea of the condition of the heron or is it an egret ?

Other than the amount of damage to the bird- (flattened body, marked beak), the rest looks O.K to such as me ?

 

80 x 75 x 4.6 at rim          Masamune the maker I think ?

 

thanks in anticipation

 

Roger Dundas

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#2 Kurikata

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 12:46 PM

Hi Roger, I think the signature is: 正常 (masatsune) Not Ishiguro neither Tanaka. As for the bird I would consider it as a Kingfisher.


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#3 roger dundas

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Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:55 AM

Thanks for your response Bruno- I didn't get too much right with my ideas so again, thanks.

 

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Posted 03 December 2019 - 09:42 PM

Another question in my mind is about when was this made ?

Before the end of the edo period or later in the meiji period when it would be sold more as a relic or souvenir than a tsuba for mounting?

 

Although advertised as bronze, the plate is a fine, brown coloured iron and the gold bird seems fairly solid in construction.

 

If anyone else would care to comment I would be grateful- only have around 6 or 8 more to post and then I'm out of your hair.

 

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Posted 03 December 2019 - 11:17 PM

All guess work but i would say late Edo. Looks Like it could have been mounted at one time. Leaves look like shakudo. Base metal looks like patternated shinchu (Brass) or copper.


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Posted 16 May 2020 - 08:59 AM

It is iron Peter- checked it the other day. A nice (whatever nice means) chocolate brown colour.

Probably a bit late with this ?

 

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Posted 16 May 2020 - 11:14 AM

Roger,

Haynes lists 9 Masatsune with those Kanji and all were active around 1800.
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Posted 17 May 2020 - 04:12 AM

Once again- thanks for your replies, Bruno. Much appreciated.

 

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