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#1 djedie01

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 03:54 PM

Hi everyone,

Here again to try to identify and date this tsuba I found in a Parisian flee market

Let me try this little game

I would say
Marugata tsuba iron and brass with 8 mon
Kaga yoshiro zogan style
Early Edo?
Am I right??

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#2 djedie01

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 03:56 PM

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#3 Pete Klein

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 04:12 PM

Very nice.  Probably paper to 'Yoshiro'.  Edo shoki (early Edo) as you mentioned.


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#4 djedie01

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 11:58 PM

Thanks! I had a good feeling about this one. I'm glad this feeling is shared!

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 01:03 PM

Darn good find at a flea market. I hope it was priced accordingly???  I would give this one house room.  Lovely patina and condition.  Congratulations.

 

BaZZa.


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#6 djedie01

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:11 PM

The guy thought it was a keyhole entrance...
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#7 Kurikata

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:51 PM

I wish i was before you on this flea market. !!!
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#8 francois2605

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:24 PM

The guy thought it was a keyhole entrance...

 

Are you serious ?!?

 

Are you saying you got the tsuba for peanuts ?

 

OMG  :o  :o


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:38 PM

I can only join the chorus of envious Parisians... I presume it was not in St. Ouen?



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Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:39 PM

The guy thought it was a keyhole entrance...

Decades ago I heard that Paris had many tsuba used as keyhole escutcheons, so perhaps it is a common understanding there "in the trade".  You are lucky yours doesn't have the nail holes where it might have been attached to a door...

 

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#11 francois2605

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:55 PM

This story probably explains why someone drilled a hole into this tsuba.

 

I was wondering how such an idea could cross someone's mind but now it would make sense.


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#12 djedie01

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 04:01 PM

The 8 mon are originally pierced in their center. The holes were filled by dust/ oxydization, I just cleaned up with a thin needle. Maybe they once used these holes to attach it on a door?!?

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 05:49 PM

djedie01,

please sign all posts at least with your first name plus an initial, as is requested here.

Otherwise welcome to the NM board, and congratulations to a very nice HEIANJO TSUBA!

Please refrain from all attemps to 'clean' the TSUBA except from red active rust. You have a good TSUBA in seemingly good condition, and it should be kept this way. It does not look as if it had been misused as 'keyhole' escutcheon.

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 06:14 PM

djedie01,

please sign all posts at least with your first name plus an initial, as is requested here.

Otherwise welcome to the NM board, and congratulations to a very nice HEIANJO TSUBA!

Please refrain from all attemps to 'clean' the TSUBA except from red rust. You have a good TSUBA in seemingly good condition, and it should be kept this way. It does not look as if it had been misused as 'keyhole' escutcheon.

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Thanks for the advice.
I just removed a lot of dust with a smooth brush and a thin needle in the tiny holes and spaces

I won't do anymore except from finding an appropriate wooden box

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:47 AM

Lovely tsuba, good to see most of the inlay is intact, brass often falls out due to rusting of iron base.  Its probably worth pointing out that this type of tsuba was made in Kyoto (Heian) and Kaga by the Yoshiro school.  I've also seen signed examples from Bizen, so difficult to judge exactly what school.  Also, two types of mon inlay, first is solid brass, like yours, then sukashi mon cut in.  Second is a brass ring, like mine, and the pre shaped mon is pushed into the ring.  Your kodzuka hitsu ana is square, or squarish.  I have not been able to find out is this is a characteristic of any school, but have seen in identified Bizen example.  The karakusa looks a bit more elaborate than usual.  So, all in all, lovely tsuba with some out of the usual type of inlay.

 

regards, John


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