Translation help

[Jude67]

Hello everyone,I have something else I need some help with I think it's a urn with amazing detail any help would be appreciated

 

 

 

Edited July 3, 2019 by Brian

[John A Stuart]

Try using 'more reply options' to upload your picture. John

[Jude67]

sorry but I can't get the signature to up load right side up I'll try again soon

[Jude67]

there we go I think.nothing is working right to day.

[Jude67]

that's it for pics. The cap is missing and it looks like the two things that stick out from the top are broken off and gone still beautiful .

[Guest]

Hi Jude,

 

It looks like one of the many variant Satsuma marks:

 

That does not mean that it was made in Satsuma, as the export style became so popular by the 1890's  that it was made all over Japan.

 

https://www.gotheborg.com/marks/satsuma.shtml

 

I have had a quick look on the database, but I cannot find it.

 

Here's similar subject matter:

 

https://www.gotheborg.com/marks/bild/710_fullsize.jpg

 

[TETSUGENDO]

Hey Jude, you say your piece is missing two of something and a lid, if this picture appears similar to what your piece looked like it is an incense burner(Koro).  Malcolm is correct on the date being very late Meiji.  Also, the link he provided will allow you to partially identify your mark.

 

-S-

[SteveM]

大日本薩摩国

伊集院苗代川

薩摩焼

囗囗囗製保土田

 

Japan, Satsuma

Ijūin, Naeshiro-kawa

Satsuma-yaki

???sei, Hodoya

 

The question marks probably point to the specific kiln where this piece was made, but I can't quite make it out. Something like

寿官？寿宮？or 吾宮？

 

Also, the cross-in-circle motif is the family crest of Shimazu clan of Satsuma, but in this case I think it is used as a symbol of Kyushu/Satsuma. The two kanji flanking this symbol are probably meant to be read together (rather than as part of the vertical text), but I'm not completely sure of this. In the above rendering I've included it as part of the vertical text, but my gut feeling is that the 大 goes with the kanji to the left of the symbol. I can't read that one on the left.  

 

edit: ishūin → ijūin

[Jude67]

Many thanks Malcolm and Steve for the info. I'm glad it's not an urn that would be kind of creepy having around Thanks again.

[Jude67]

After checking the links you posted I think your right.Good show! Thanks I'd be lost without you

[SteveM]

Filling in the blanks

 

大日本薩摩国

伊集院苗代川

薩摩焼

沈寿官製保土田

 

Dai Nippon Satsuma-kuni

Ijūin Naeshiro-kawa

Chin Jukan-sei, Hotoda (Hododa)

 

The writing is all vertical. 

I'm not a porcelain specialist. Ijūin Naeshiro-kawa is a location. "Chin Jukan" seems like a particular brand of Satsuma-yaki. The Goteburg site talks a bit about "Hododa". 

 

edit: Wikipedia tells me Chin Jukan is a family/school of potters in Satsuma area. 

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B2%88%E5%A3%BD%E5%AE%98

[Brian]

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