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Ran across this on a listing over on the Bay. What is going on here? What happened to this Nakago?post-4803-0-56678800-1549419803_thumb.png

 

It has NBTHK papers and the oshigata of the Nakago shows this weirdness, so I have to assume it’s “valid” in some way. But extremely curious as to what has happened and why.

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I think its exactly what Surfson says..  that threading at the bottom of the tang is a strong indication of a more western style of mounting, with the threading being used to keep the grip assembly on. Probably Kyu Gunto style mounts for an older blade. A real shame, but its historic militaria so if you collect militaria, this is a pretty interesting find.

 

Another theory: bought by a European and mounted in European grips. The nihonto was well-known by the west as a quality sword, wakizashi being especially popular.

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Ben,

 

Yep, looks exactly like the tang on the blade in the first link. I saw something like this thread when trying to figure this out, but hadn't seen the picture of the threading on the end of the Nakago. Agree it's a shame, as I'm sure a good chunk of the history (Mei) is missing within that portion of the Tang that was reshaped. Still, interesting piece of history.

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Gee,

This has turned into an interesting thread. Indeed, I, too, had a Meiji era police or civil official's sword with this kind of modified nakago. I assumed that it was a serious negative condition that would essentially destroy the historical value of the blade. I sold it at a Chicago show to a Japanese dealer  - who immediately and in front of me (!) sold the koshirae to another Japanese fellow!. I am glad that the NBTHK is maintaining these blades! I wish I wanted a Kanenaka. I'd bid on this blade.

peter

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Gee,

This has turned into an interesting thread. Indeed, I, too, had a Meiji era police or civil official's sword with this kind of modified nakago. I assumed that it was a serious negative condition that would essentially destroy the historical value of the blade. I sold it at a Chicago show to a Japanese dealer  - who immediately and in front of me (!) sold the koshirae to another Japanese fellow!. I am glad that the NBTHK is maintaining these blades! I wish I wanted a Kanenaka. I'd bid on this blade.

peter

 

 I wonder if he was making a point to a Gajin collector.

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