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#31 nickm

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:22 PM

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:23 PM

Show some Images of munemachi please. ... also tang ... and thicknes ...

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:44 PM

Greetings,

 

So far I would agree with the thought that this is not an older blade (at this time), my guess would be shinshinto. With a chipped tip and a chip at the yokote it will be important that the polisher has excellent foundation polishing skills, especially when considering the importance of the o-kissaki to this sword, not to mention the chunk of change that will be invested (new habaki, new shirasaya, origami).


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:52 PM

munemachi..
Also only came with one menuki on the old tsuka.. wondering what it says?

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:26 PM

pics of the nakago.. also it is 5/16 inch at the munemachi

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 11:26 PM

Shinshinto. ..

Approximatly 2.7k for the sword and another4k

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 11:49 PM

For the restoration / shinsa. Bob benson can give you good advice. You will to Take the decesssion

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 12:21 AM

I appreciate the information as always.

I have already emailed Bob to see if I can send it his way..

Can't get over how formidable of a sword this is a. Understanding that I would be underwater in the restoration I still am having a hard time with the idea of not restoring it. For me these blades fall into categories of elegance and formidability. I recently bought a kozori daito from Bob that handles the elegant side of things and I'm super excited for this one to hopefully handle the formidable side.

Again I very much appreciate you guys for the wealth of knowledge!
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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:41 AM

When i was a Kid in the 80s I thought the Toyota Supra to be a firmidable car... would i get a Rusty one restored? No. IG i had bought one back then i would have thought different. Maybe in some year you will looks swords with a diffetent view, too.

Maybe those of US Who think it to be Shinshinto are wrong.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 03:43 PM

Again I appreciate the advice and respect the knowledge. Difference of opinion i.e. Not everything in the world for me is about money and some things deserve to be treated differently. I think it's a sad thing when these swords fall by the wayside because they are not old enough or not by a famous maker. I understand it from a monetary aspect but looking at the world as not only monetarily based it makes me sad..
But again I totally understand the point of view and understand that you disagree with mine. Of course I would have been happier if everyone said it was koto but again beautiful things are beautiful And I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say.
Good luck with the supra!
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Posted 29 January 2019 - 03:56 PM

To reiterate I very much appreciate the knowledgeable opinions of yourself Luis and those that join you to teach we lessors in the field.

For me I do not really get into this for monetary gain as much as I do for the collecting idea. I have been called something of a black hole in that once I get something I pretty much keep it.. I will have a nice estate sale one day..
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Posted 29 January 2019 - 04:21 PM

Nick, looking closely at the photos, the hamon doesn't really change shape going into the boshi, which indicates a Koto blade to me. I can't tell if the ana are chiseled or drilled, but I really don't think this is Shinshinto. What is the nagasa?

 I was thinking the same thing


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 04:28 PM

Beg to differ as i have Shinshinto Masayuki that is exactly like this but zaimei, ubu. It is with Tanobe sensei but looks to be Seki Shinshinto at the moment (the Masayuki that is)

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 04:34 PM

Either way I like this blade! Im biased towards Koto, so I guess I jump to conclusions. But I honestly wouldn't think it was that new.


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 05:15 PM

Beg to differ as i have Shinshinto Masayuki that is exactly like this but zaimei, ubu. It is with Tanobe sensei but looks to be Seki Shinshinto at the moment (the Masayuki that is)


I appreciate the replies and would love to see some pics of the masayuki if you have any for comparisons sake
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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:11 PM

Does menuki say Tadahide?   You need to reorient it by rotating it to the right.


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:14 PM

reoriented.. thanks

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:14 PM

or i thought so anyway.. ill try again
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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:17 PM

attempt 2
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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:17 PM

attempt 2

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:20 PM

told it may be chu no tamashii in translation section
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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:24 PM

Top kanji looks like Tada to me.  Can't tell about the rest. 


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 08:30 PM

also wondering about the tsuba.. It used to have some kind of gold decoration running along the side but it seems to have been lost to the sands of time. I definitely like the wood grain and figure it is nothing special but wondering if it is shin shinto as well

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 08:54 PM

also came with a saya in bad shape with this 2 piece kogai. First for me so fun as well.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 09:09 PM

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 09:15 PM

http://www.militaria...u/?fromsearch=1


I appreciate it. Beautiful sword. Good luck with the shinsa!
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 04:45 AM

Nick, please don't try to extrapolate anything about any blade from its koshirae & tosogu. The chance that anything is original is almost zero. Even the Samurai changed things on & off, & today's dealers think nothing about selling off parts to make a profit.


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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:02 AM

Understood. of course I am much more interested in the sword but again find it all pretty interesting. Look forward to seeing if Bob will work on it
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:37 AM

忠之魂

 

Chu-no-tamashii.

 

The reading for 忠 is "tada" if it is used in a name.  However, if it is used as anything other than a pronoun the reading is "chu" (long u... for some reason I can't input diacritical marks on this keyboard). 

https://en.wiktionar...nary.org/wiki/忠

 

 

(Actually, the reading can also be "chu" even if the word is a pronoun.)


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Posted 30 January 2019 - 04:28 PM

Thanks Steve.  What is the meaning of that phrase?


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