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#1 AntonvonD

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 07:56 AM

so i find thi one on sale i dont believe that its forgen ouside of Chine like the salesman say... but something else caught my attentio, a seem to be squared tuska?

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#2 Guido Schiller

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 08:47 AM

100% Chinese, and square(ish) tsuba are not uncommon.

 

What else do we learn from this? Don't buy drill bits made in China ...  :laughing:


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#3 ROKUJURO

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 11:38 AM

Yes, Anton,

a squarish TSUKA, a cast TSUBA, a blade that doesn't even try to hide its non-Japanese provenance - all together a new, but bad attempt to fake a Japanese sword! 


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#4 Jussi Ekholm

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 11:10 PM

I chuckled at Guidos comment about drill bits but with more serious tone I can say it might be a decent Chinese made sword. I haven't followed the Chinese made replica market too closely in many years now, but I do remember back in mid 2000's there used to be company called Zhisword. They produced decent quality replicas and I remember they had customization options (as I planned to buy one). By looking at the tsuka (handle) it seems to me that this sword is better than your average replica. Of course I cannot see any details in the blade, might be just the picture or it might be through hardened.

 

It is Chinese made sword but depending on the price you might get a decent sword for martial arts practice.


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#5 AntonvonD

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Posted 22 December 2018 - 04:27 PM

more phtos of the blade, so it is a worthy replica?

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#6 ROKUJURO

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Posted 22 December 2018 - 05:49 PM

Yes, Anton,

worth $ 50.-- or less, depending on what you wanted to buy.

There are very good replica of everything on the market, and also of Japanese swords and TSUBA. They are skilfully made and carefully finished by master craftsmen, are very close to the originals, and they are expensive. There is a very small market for these. On the other side, there is a big market for look-alikes, and these are sold to people who generally buy only cheap stuff or have no idea about Japanese swords except what they saw in Chinese martial arts films.

In case you are really interested in Japanese swords including their cultural background and the high level of arts and crafts involved, I suggest you spend some time reading here at NMB, looking at pictures of quality items and buy some basic books. This self-education will already help you a lot and save you from buying swords like this one.  


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Posted 22 December 2018 - 06:19 PM

The Tsuka looks very nice. Overall not a bad made china sword. 


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Posted 22 December 2018 - 07:56 PM

Doesn't look like one of the $50 cheap Chinese fakes. The fact that it is signed as a Chinese-made one, means it was likely not intended to deceive, and might be well made.
Not Japanese, but maybe not junk.


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#9 ROKUJURO

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Posted 22 December 2018 - 11:29 PM

If it was offered or sold as a Japanese sword by the salesman, and it is not one, then it is - what?


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Posted 23 December 2018 - 10:44 PM

A chinese Katana. I think the sword is not responsible for that what the salesman said. How much is the price he ask for?

#11 AntonvonD

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 11:18 PM

The salesman ask $350 US, I ask for more info and here is it:

Nagasa: 27.5 inches (munemachi to the tip), steel T10
Tsuka: 10 inches
Ito: Japanese cotton, lacquered.
Sageo: natural hemp.
Same: black, covers all the tsuka
Fuchi: original old copper piece from the Edo period.
Kashira: buffalo horn.
Tsuba: iron.
Menuki: copper, fans and sakura
Hamon: aesthetic, Suguha style (straight)
Saya: hand painted in dark red matte finish, koiguchi, kurikata and kojiri of buffalo horn.



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Posted 24 December 2018 - 11:21 PM

If you search for a good iado katana, this looks nice. Its not expensive in my opinion. 

 

Did you have pictures from the completed sword?

 

That chinese craftsman works so many hours on that sword. Its allways a mystery for me how much it costs to make such a sword in china. The tsuka alone needs a lot of time. Btw i never saw a chinese made tsuka like this.

 

The T10 steel swords are allways better made. 


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 12:56 AM

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