Help With Seppa Kanji Please!

[Bruce Pennington]

I'm posting this in both directions, because I cannot tell which way is up on this one.

 

Thanks for any help!!!

[Stephen]

Big name, Teruhide. Seppa signed?

 

Edit one on right is way to read.

[Bruce Pennington]

Thanks Stephen!

 

This isn't mine. I beleive I saved it off the "Arsenal Stamps" thread. I'll go back and re-check. I'm updating my Stamps Document, with seppa stamping, and this is now the second seppa I have found with a person's name on it (the other one is simply "Sato" in katakana).

[TETSUGENDO]

Gents,

 

I believe you mean 'tenjo gane' not 'seppa'.

 

-S-

[SteveM]

It looks like 谷竜 or 花竜 (using the weird form of 花 that came up in another thread recently) - the one below

https://glyphwiki.org/wiki/u82b2-ue0102

 

Hanaryu? Hanatatsu? I'm away from my books now. Will take a look later if nobody chimes in. 

[Baka Gaijin]

Hi Bruce, do you have a shot from sideways on?

 

Looking at the mixed metal colours together with the slight curved depression at midpoint 3 o'clock in image 2 suggesting a Kodzuka pocket on the original Saya, and the deep shadows in the nakago ana, I wonder if this is in fact a Fuchi?

 

And as StevenK points out, the flat plane of a Fuchi is called Tenjo Gane.

 

Which would explain the lower symbol as a Kao or formal art signature maybe?

 

 

 

[Bruce Pennington]

Hi Bruce, do you have a shot from sideways on?

 

Looking at the mixed metal colours together with the slight curved depression at midpoint 3 o'clock in image 2 suggesting a Kodzuka pocket on the original Saya, and the deep shadows in the nakago ana, I wonder if this is in fact a Fuchi?

 

And as StevenK points out, the flat plane of a Fuchi is called Tenjo Gane.

 

Which would explain the lower symbol as a Kao or formal art signature maybe?

By Jove, you’re right! I’m surprised I didn’t see it before! It’s either a fuchi or a koiguchi.

[Guest]

Hi Bruce,

 

I'd suggest Fuchi as opposed to Koiguchi, notice the width of the Nakago ana think of adding the width of a Habaki to pass through it which would make a much broader ana in all directions.

 

And a workable tip for working out which way Kanji are up is think of a roof  谷 and legs 花 and remember some roofs are flat 竜.

 

[nagamaki - Franco]

Hi Bruce, do you have a shot from sideways on?

 

Looking at the mixed metal colours together with the slight curved depression at midpoint 3 o'clock in image 2 suggesting a Kodzuka pocket on the original Saya, and the deep shadows in the nakago ana, I wonder if this is in fact a Fuchi?

 

 

 

 

Hello,

 

Yes, fuchi, curved depression does indicate made for a side fitting pocket and this fuchi will be in all probability of wakizashi in size.

 

Any chance of seeing the work?

 

Thank you.

Edited October 1, 2018 by nagamaki - Franco

[Stephen]

sorry Bruce you can see how i jumped the gun...i hope anyway

 

[Bruce Pennington]

Hello,

 

Yes, fuchi, curved depression does indicate made for a side fitting pocket and this fuchi will be in all probability of wakizashi in size.

 

Any chance of seeing the work?

 

Sorry, this just a picture I saved from another thread, and I don’t recall where I got it.

 

Thank you.

  

sorry Bruce you can see how i jumped the gun...i hope anyway

 

Sure, Stephen, I’m just amazed at what you guys do!

 

So, did we come up with a definitive translation?