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#1 IJASWORDS

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 01:30 AM

I got hold of late war shin-gunto, often called a "45 pattern home defense sword". As can be seen from the photos, the fittings are quite utilitarian pressed and cast metal. Although the sword is well made and "tight", with a Mantetsu blade. From all accounts, they are not that common. 

 

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#2 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:31 AM

That’s really cool, Neil! Hey, can you post the Mantesu date and serial number on the Mantetsu Survey thread for me? http://www.militaria...wners-a-survey/

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 07:12 AM

Despite the pressed metal, the tsuka ito looks as though it has been tied well.

 

Someone took time to care for this.


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 07:25 AM

Very nice, looks just the example in Jim Dawsons book.
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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:49 PM

If any members have one of these pattern swords, I would love to see photos posted here. I have only seen 2 in the hand, and 3 in print.  


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:00 PM

Great find. Looking for one too.


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:04 PM

You guys are quite the education, anything before like this id have wrote off as copy copy copy.


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:20 PM

You guys are quite the education, anything before like this id have wrote off as copy copy copy.

 This is exactly what makes this site so valuable.


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 04:29 PM

Thats one of these Types i search for. A real beauty! Take care of it.

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 07:49 PM

 

If any members have one of these pattern swords, I would love to see photos posted here. I have only seen 2 in the hand, and 3 in print.  

 

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 07:51 PM

 

  

 

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 07:52 PM

 

  

 

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 12:31 AM

 
 


Whoa! Same kind of "I" under the Ren stamp - which means the one on Neil's isn't acidentally unfinished!!! Hmmmm.

Do I have your serial number of this one Trystan? It IS a Mantetsu isn't it?

#14 IJASWORDS

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 02:10 AM

Hi Bruce, it is apparently the rare DAIREN railway company stamp. 


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#15 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 03:34 AM

Hi Bruce, it is apparently the rare DAIREN railway company stamp.

But isn’t that more accurately:

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 05:59 AM

 

Whoa! Same kind of "I" under the Ren stamp - which means the one on Neil's isn't acidentally unfinished!!! Hmmmm.

Do I have your serial number of this one Trystan? It IS a Mantetsu isn't it?

 
It is a Mentetsu,but I'm out for biz trip for Month.I can check the Numbers along with my other 5 Mantetsu when I get home.
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 10:09 AM

Here is mine that I have in at this time.  I have only had a couple of these in the last 28 years and they have all been with Mantetsu blades

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 11:47 AM

Thanks Bill for sharing. So it looks like Mantetsu are common in these mounts. Interesting. Like you I have only seen couple in years of collecting.  


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 04:05 PM

Here is mine that I have in at this time.  I have only had a couple of these in the last 28 years and they have all been with Mantetsu blades


Bill, could I get the serial number on that one? I'm doing an informal survey of Mantetsu numbering.

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 04:46 PM

Bill What stamp is on that? Tan?


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 06:28 PM

Bruce and Steve,

 

Here you go.

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:10 PM

Thanks Bill! “se” 243, Spring 1944

Stephen, the stamp is “REN” of the Nanman Army Arsenal Dalian Factory
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:14 PM

Thank you Bill an thank you Bruce, seldom seen id forgotten.
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