Yoroi ''complete'' Set, What Do You Think ?

[francantolin]

Hello everybody,

 

I interested by this set-yoroi samurai armor,

it has the Omoto family crest and is said to be original Edo period.

 

Really nice but for me, the kabuto and the mempo seems too ''clean'' for be old genuine pieces.

 

Any advice ?

 

Thank you

 

Kind regards

 

Franco

[francantolin]

''Fair'' strange balanced '' very correct'' price ?! :  3000 euros ?

 

Not expensive at all I think  if it is a real nice old piece /

 

wasting lot of money if it's a composite armor  or mixed with reproduction fake pieces ...

[Luc T]

Modern reproduction. Nice as a display.

[uwe]

Hi Franco,

 

unfortunately, I can't find any reference to the mentioned family for this mon. In fact, I can't find this family at all.....

Ok, that means not much, but the pics are moreover quite blurry and less detailed.

Based on what we have, I would tend to say, modern replica, ...... for the moment!

[francantolin]

Hello,

Thank you all !!

The name is OTOMO and not Omoto !!

Dyslexic problem ?!grrr

I found the same Kamon with this name but nothing about Edo yoroi or sword with this family crest.

Yes, blurry pictures make old but we can'nt really see the (bad) stuff !!!

[francantolin]

No kamon like found on other armours will it necessarily mean recent reproduction?

[Baka Gaijin]

Good morning all.,

 

Agree with Luc & Uwe regarding the age based on the images.

 

The Kamon looks like one of the Myoga (Clove) varients like Daki or Kage Daki Myoga.

 

Used by many families, including in its formal form,  the Nabeshima in Saga.

 

Maybe by Marutake Sangyo but not current stock (maybe 1970's)?.

 

http://yoroi.co.jp/english/english/aboutus.html

 

Looks like the Suneate (Shin Guards) are currently displayed upside down.

[uwe]

Hi Franco,

 

Although it makes no sense to discuss a mon on an replica armor, it seems not related to the "Ōtomo" family.

As Malcolm said, the mon looks more "Myoga" (Ginger) than "Gyoyo" (Apricot Blossom).....

For the sake of completeness

[francantolin]

Hello,

Thanks a lot guys for all precious comments, specially about the kamon,

I think I will not buy it, maybe make an offer.

What can be a correct price for this kind of reproduction?

( seems good quality !...)

Thank you

[Sly]

Hello Franco.

 

A correct price for a showa reproduction like this ? I think the price is OK but you can find others at a cheaper price...

As you are living in a France, have a look at this :

 

https://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/1392254851.htm?ca=12_s

 

But honestly, let me give you this advice : take more time to save a little bit more money and buy a REAL yoroi from edo period (around 5 - 6 000 euros). If you buy a reproduction, I think that you will get bored very quickly, for this kind of armor has no particular story to tell...

[francantolin]

Hello Sylvain,

 

Thank you for the informations & the link sur leboncoin,

 

For the ''Otomo'' armour, I asked the seller to send me some ''zoomed'' pictures + less blurry,

He confirm me that for him it's an original one and that he paid it more than 5000€ and that he got a Bill ( from a shop,not an Auction house ... )

He can make a last price ( I can believe him but so why selling it half price , hum hum, )

So waiting for pictures, I'll post them...

 

Bonne soirée et merci encore à tous !