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#1 PNSSHOGUN

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 12:46 PM

Is there any conclusive document or knowledge available about this period of Arsenal blades commonly seen in combat versions of Kyu Gunto and other swords of this period? The only information I have found is on Murata-To, but the scope of that process is unknown as they are usually associated with the Kogasa-Maru style blades or signed blades made by General Murata himself.

 

I ask because some of these blades are a step above what we normally see in arsenal blades made during WW2, the one I have could be mistaken for Nihonto until looked at closely. The sword is tempered with etched hamon and NOT a parade style blade. I have seen a few other examples with similar quality and pattern blades so I wonder if other members here have Kyu Gunto with these Arsenal blades and have any further information at hand. One detail I have noted is very similar Horimono on all of these blades.

 

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Here's an almost identical blade but clearly handmade with real hamon: http://www.artswords...unts_042508.htm

 

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#2 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 06:15 PM

John,

After a brief perusal of Dawson's book, he has a couple of examples, one a Type 8 and the other a court blade, that have serious blades like yours. Both were custom made, but he seemed more focused on the fittings rather than the blade.

Fuller & Gregory state: "The blade was down to the owner's choice and may often be of some age, being reused from older samurai swords. Contemporary oil-temered or hand-forged gendaito can also be found but are in the tradtional shinogi-zukuri form."
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#3 PNSSHOGUN

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:51 PM

Anyone with Murata-To care to share their examples?


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 03:00 PM

Our old friend Showa22 has one of these blades listed as Murata-To.

 

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https://www.ebay.com...jcAAOSwW6xafQRP

 


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#5 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:47 AM

John,
http://www.wehrmacht...d=1#post8079933
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