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#1 Nickupero

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:08 AM

Hi Guys, figured this was an interesting one to take a jab at. It may not be your taste being Kogarasu-maru style but there are a couple interesting features on this piece that make it interesting. What period and which school/ or more precisely which smith could have made this one? Nakago is Mumei. Much of the reason for this kantei is a feature I'd like to point out which I'll do so once we tally up a few opinions.

Nagasa is 66cm with a Sori of 1.2 cm

Good luck :)

 

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#2 Nickupero

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:10 AM

and a few more hamon shots...

 

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#3 Ken-Hawaii

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:30 AM

I've always wondered how they do noto with a blade like that.

 

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#4 CSM101

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:00 AM

My tip: Taikei Naotane.

 

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#5 Rayhan

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:47 AM

Really a long shot here but say.... Hosokawa Masayoshi.....

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:34 PM

Gassan, looks Shin Shinto.

 

 

 

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:40 PM

Just gut feel...shin shinto, made to look o-suriage as an utsushi of an earlier sword.


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#8 Fuuten

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 01:07 PM

I'm going with Hosokawa school. Sorry can't be any more specific as it would be a pure guess.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 01:37 PM

Shinshinto Bizen vibes
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#10 Lee Bray

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 01:54 PM

I've always wondered how they do noto with a blade like that.

 

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Kiyondo. Gut feel based on the fine jigane and control in the hamon.

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#11 Mark S.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 04:26 PM

Naoe Shizu or Kaneuji

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 05:57 PM

Not my field of interest but for the fun and to vary the answers, I'll say gendai, Gassan school, Sadakazu or Sadakatsu :)
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Posted 09 August 2017 - 06:03 PM

There seems to be a weak utsuri, which Naotane and his son could consistently pull off. I looked for uzumaki, but could not be sure.


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#14 Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 06:07 PM

The color of the Nakago, and looks very healty... To me looks like a young beautiful woman in the attempt to appear much older...

 

Shinshinto Gassan school. ?

 

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#15 Maurice_lmb

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 06:10 PM

My guess is Nobuhide 

 

 

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#16 BIG

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 06:31 PM

I am with Ray, Naotane school sue bizen utsushimono...

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#17 Okiiimo

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:06 PM

The sunagashi reminds me very much of a Taneaki (student of Naotane) blade I have. I'm not sure about the three mekugi ana for such a recent blade though - implying older? Lovely blade regardless of who made it!


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#18 SwordGuyJoe

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:00 PM

One of the Bizen Osafune Yokoyama guys. Maybe Sukenaga.

#19 Nickupero

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 12:13 AM

Some very good opinions.... Thank you all who participated so far.

All bets in? I'll give it a tad longer for whoever else might want to add their 2 cents.


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 12:30 AM

I wish I could even guess, but really fun watching very smart folks add guesses. Love these threads. 


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 12:44 AM

Ok so I feel like playing even though my knowledge is very limited but how better to learn. I can't guess as to school or smith so I will stick to period and what I am seeing. Hamon seems more recent shin Shinto. Jigane/jihada not the best pics but doesn't have a Koto feel to me. Nakago besides being beautiful, looks old and suriage, with several mekugiana, however, description says its ubu. So I am going with shin Shinto period.

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#22 Shugyosha

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:46 AM

My first thoughts were shinshinto Gassan and I haven't had any better ones so that's my bid.


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#23 Alex A

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 03:12 PM

Difficult, if the blade is unaltered then someone did one hell of a job as a utsushi. (but maybe they did?)

 

The steel patina changes along the nakago, more pitted towards the end, even in the bo-hi.

 

The way the bo-hi is cut off.

 

I'm finding it difficult to believe the nakago is unaltered, leaning towards suriage.

 

As for school, struggling, but best I can come up with is Gassan Sadakazu, but may well be a bit older, I think :dunno:


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#24 Gunome

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 03:52 PM

I would go shinshinto, Kiyondo or Kiyomaro


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 04:26 PM

Hiyama Enshin has made several blades in that shape. A little added patina and there you have it.
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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:39 PM

Definitely reminds me of Gassan school, but I'm not confident enough to name a particular one.


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#27 Okiiimo

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 07:18 PM

I cheated and found the answer to this kantei quiz. :)


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#28 Nickupero

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:27 PM

Sneaky of you Allan :)

Some of you hit the nail on the head, answer is Gassan Sadakazu, jidai is Meiji period. Congrats to Jean and Alex :thumbsup:

Both John's came very close, along with Tom.

Barry before submission to the NTHK-NPO Hayama Enshin was my my guess since he was known to make a few of these and well balanced in the various traditions, but I also thought it could have been a late shin-shinto work like some of you guessed (possibly the Yokoyama school).

Like some of you the Nakago threw me off, the Jigane was certainly indication of a late Edo Utushi and the 3 Mekugi-ana looks like it could have been re-mounted. The Mekugi-ana closest to the Machi appears to have been double punched or elongated but I think the koshirae that was commissioned for this piece (which is absolutely stunning btw) is original to when the blade was made so a lot of time went into making that nakago look like it was older.

Thank you to everybody that participated, sorry if I left anyone out. you can see a few pics of the complete set.

 

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#29 Rayhan

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:41 PM

Thanks Nick! I was waiting anxiously for the answer:) Atari to those who got it and a great learning experience!
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Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:43 PM

Nice! That was fun.
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