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#1 vajo

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 12:23 AM

A friend of mine ask for help with a Gunto number.
Is this number correct. For me the arsenal stamp looks strange.
The tsuka is woodden

Any idea?

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 12:40 AM

And one picture more.
Sorry for this. I sit outside and send it with a smartphone.


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#3 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 12:40 AM

Chris,

I can't make out the stamp either, but everything else about this looks right!
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Posted 07 August 2017 - 12:47 AM

Hi Bruce

We sit here and trink some beer, the seller sit nearby. He meant the 7 is the stamp. I say strange.
My knowledge is, every NCO Gunto must have a arsenal stamp in front of the number.

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#5 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 12:50 AM

The stamp is there in front of the number, and is probably Nagoya, but it's a little fuzzy on the bottom and I can't tell for sure. The seven is definitely a seven.

Nagoya stamps are notoriously weak and very finely imprinted so that makes it harder to read.

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 12:52 AM

Bruce you are invited!
Thanks for helping out.
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Cheers
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Posted 07 August 2017 - 01:16 AM

Hey Bruce, when did this model have fullered  (grooved) blades. Mine don't. Pictures attached. Neil.

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#8 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 02:26 AM

Chris, I think that stamp is a "Seki" stamp, pictured below.

Neil, I am researching the fuller question!

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 05:27 AM

Hi Chris,

The sword is fine, right serial range and correct stamp. It's just poorly struck on one side, but it is Seki. Not at all common to find fullered swords in the wooden handles but not unknown. I don't have an example in my collection, so if you want to sell I'd pay a good price.
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Posted 07 August 2017 - 06:55 AM

Thanks Steve, news to me. Live and learn! I will keep my eyes open for other examples. Neil.  


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Posted 07 August 2017 - 08:20 AM

That's why I love them. Always a surprise!
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Posted 07 August 2017 - 09:03 AM

Hi All,

 

Chris,

As mentioned, the sword is genuine, ans the stamp is a poorly struck Seki stamp.

 

Neil, in the picture you posted of your two swords, is one handle longer than the other or are my eyes deceiving me???


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#13 vajo

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 11:12 AM

Thanks a lot. I dont think that the seller will sell it now, after all the informations you give? 

I dont know what will happened with that sword.

 

I have no experience with NCO Swords (i did not collect them). But i learned a lot. 

Shamsey i tell you if the sword is available.

 

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 11:59 AM

Neil, in the picture you posted of your two swords, is one handle longer than the other or are my eyes deceiving me???

It really does look that way, doesn't it?

Cheers Chris, whether or not, appreciate you passing on the offer.
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#15 IJASWORDS

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 12:46 PM

Handles same length, must be the peculiarity of iPhone photography. Neil.


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Posted 07 August 2017 - 03:21 PM

It's a well known trick of the eye.....except I can't recall the name!
I remember having to pieces of curved cards when I was a kid which demonstrated the effect.
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Posted 08 August 2017 - 08:44 PM

It should be "関”instead of "名”。Just wondering if it has matching Ser# .


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 11:33 PM

関 That's the stamp I see? It is only the right hand half though. Like I said, poorly (and commonly so) struck.
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Posted 10 August 2017 - 01:31 PM

Gentlemen i bought the sword in the morning from my friend. Today in the afternoon i bring it home.

I take some pictures and come back to this thread.  :)


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 04:57 PM

I have the sword now.

 

Here are some, i hope more detailed pictures.

 

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The saya has the same number as the blade No.202817. I see a part of a seki stamp on the blade.  I can't identify the 2 stamps on the fuchi. The blade is in very good condition. The kissaki has a nice yokote. 

 

On the scabbard is a number very fine engraved. It looks like written with a pencil. Maybe it is the identification tag of the soldier?.

Edit: I found out that 8 Numbers are the tag of the US Soldiers in WW2. 

 

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I found under enlistment records the name of a PFC from the USAAF who served in WWII with that Tag. Born 1926, died 2013 (Miramar National Cemetery).


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 07:05 PM

Hello Chris,
Nice find and well done finding the history..
Regards,
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 02:19 AM

Chris, a real beauty! The stamps on the fuchi are the Nagoya Arsenal, and Nagoya inspector stamps. There is probably one more there, like Itme 9 in this picture. It should be the
関刀劍株式会社
(岐阜県・関町)
Seki Tōken Co,Ltd.

You can read more here: http://ohmura-study.net/794.html

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 05:40 AM

Why does the Gifu stamp show as unknown but not the Kobe? Old pic on ohmura. Anyway, good illustration for the Seki sword.
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#24 vajo

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:15 AM

Bruce, Steve thank you for your help I'm very glad now.

In backtime i had no interest in buying a Type95. But in Hand it is a wonderfull sword, light and a pure strong weapon.

I know now why these swords are your passion.

 

Thanks for learning!

 

I photoshopped the pictures above a little to get a neutral background.

 

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