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#1 Japan2112

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 12:11 AM

Good evening members,

Here is a first post from me to learn about the process and gain some perspective.
These are two iron tsuba I had submitted to the NBTHK last year.
They both were given Tokubetsu Hozon. The first - "ko Shoami", the second "Akasaka". I was pleased to confirm the ko shoami, but disappointed that the Akasaka did not receive the "ko Akasaka " attribution I expected. I am confident it is Tadamasa, but would appreciate the members comments and opinion on the work itself and maybe the submital process. In speaking with others who are more knowledgeable than I, the attribution is considered secondary. What do you think?

Thanks for any input.

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#2 Japan2112

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 12:49 AM

Sorry gents, the first image is ko shoami - wisteria

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#3 Japan2112

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 12:50 AM

Second image, that is.

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#4 kissakai

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 01:00 AM

Hi Japan 2121

On this message board we like to use actual first names

 

Two nice tsuba - Shoami can easily be overlooked but they did some nice tsuba

Was there any mention of a possible date for the Akasaka?

I still think it is a good result to be proved to be an Akasaka tsuba

I have about 30 examples of Akasaka in my book and looking at these dating can be difficult

It is annoying when the papers only tell you what you can already see so I wonder about the benefits of submitting tsuba for papers

 

I submitted a Yamakichibei that I was 50/50 but it came back as gimei so you have had better news than me


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 01:06 AM

I forgot to say that in my examples the hitsuana of this type appears to be later than ko Akasaka but as a collector for only a few years I have a s*&! load to learn

I hope this makes sense as I been out for a few beers and a game of pool so not firing on all cylinders


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#6 Japan2112

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 01:20 AM

The NBTHK paper says only Akasaka. I'd seen another tsuba that looked very similar, and was given a Kanayama attribution by the NBTHK. This one seems to bear its Owari roots with much linear and globular tekkotsu.

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 10:19 AM

Nice tsuba Marc. Can anyone show us Ko-akasaka tsuba. This is the first three generations. The earliest works of Akasaka come from Owari, so there are clear similarities between Owari sukashi and Akasaka or even the greater influence of Owari and Kyo-sukashi.I have  two Akasaka tsuba, I think early ,nfluece of owari , the quality of the metal corresponds with Owari quards.

1.

19702427_1841392965887081_70656348513081

 

 

19601601_1841393119220399_72941610964632

 

19748836_1841392969220414_75951435446909

 

 

A bird and plum (ume) in blossom. Dimensions 68 x 64 x 6 mm.

 

2.

19657420_1840467022646342_54502683854913

 

19598879_1840467689312942_75111160644694

 

and Symilar Kanayama tsuba  http://is2.sss.fukus...html/00049.html


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#8 Japan2112

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:47 PM

Yogoro san. Very good comparison of Kanayama and Akasaka work, and nice tsuba, too. The Kanayama is very different from what is usually seen.
here is a later Akasaka work (godai?) that reminds me of yours.

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