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#1 Timur1981

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:17 AM

Hello, I would appreciate if you help me to find out was this tachi really made by Moriie Tsukuru, Hatakada in Bizen? Thank you in advance!
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#2 Timur1981

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:18 AM

Here are the photos

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#3 raymondsinger

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:42 AM

Will take a look, but first it 'looks' like these are fresh fingerprints in the bo-hi that you may want to wipe down before re-oiling.

 

I believe you would typically expect to find Moriie signed as tachi-mei.


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#4 Timur1981

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 07:36 AM

Thank you Ray! I will wait for your opinion on this subject. Tell me if you will need more photos. Thank you
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#5 Jacques D.

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:01 AM

Several generations of Moriie  between 1200 and 1500 

 

Search from Oei era onwards. 


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#6 Timur1981

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:14 AM

Thank you for your reply Jacques! Is there any way to identify generation specifically ? What do you think about its approximate price?
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#7 Shugyosha

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:38 AM

Hi Timur,

 

I think you should perhaps take a step back. What Ray is saying is that there is a strong possibility that this is gimei due to the placement of the mei. Also, IMHO it does look rather fresh for a group of smiths working around or pre-1300. Some examples of signatures here:

 

http://www.sho-shin.com/hatakeda.htm

 

More examples and some prices here:

 

https://www.aoijapan...akeda&x=31&y=18

 

Best,

John


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#8 Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 06:10 PM

Thank you Ray! I will wait for your opinion on this subject. Tell me if you will need more photos. Thank you

 

Timur, pictures of NihonTo should be taken Without Habaki.

The first Mekugiana looks altered, like the Hi was made after it provoking its present day shape.

As Ray said, should be Tachimei...


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#9 Jacques D.

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 08:32 PM

He can be a smith from the Bungo Takada school... Who knows ?



#10 Timur1981

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 09:36 PM

Hello everyone! I have found information from the auction where it was bought and have some better pictures! I hope it will help.

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#11 raymondsinger

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 09:51 PM

Here are authentic Hatakeda, so you can compare with your sword.

 

https://www.aoijapan...atakeda&x=0&y=0


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#12 PNSSHOGUN

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 02:45 PM

Signature does not look authentic, however the sword is nice anyway.


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#13 Timur1981

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 03:26 PM

Thanks to everyone for your opinion! I am appreciate it. Best regards, Timur
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