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#1 drb 1643

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:42 PM

Hi all, this is my first post. I picked this up recently and need assistance in translating the tang.I tried to get each side of the tang in one photo but it wasn't clear enough so two photos per side. I sincerely appreciated any comments.
Thank you all very much,
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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:57 PM

Smith is Kaneshige

 

 

 

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KANESHIGE (金重), Tenpō (天保, 1830-1844), Yamato – “Nihon-kaji ganso Ōmi Suke Uda Kaneshige” (日本鍛冶元祖近江介宇多金重), unclear to what ancestor he refers with the prefix Nihon-kaji ganso, lit. “ancestor of the Japanese smiths,” chū-saku
KANESHIGE (金重), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Gifu – “Kaneshige” (金重), real name Nishimura Jin´ichi (西村仁一), born July 15th 1902, he worked as rikugun-jumei-tōshō and died April 28th 1982
 
would be the latter one with the showa date
interesting has nagoya stamp as well as star stamp

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#3 ROKUJURO

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:03 PM

Tom,

we have a special translation forum.

Smith is KANESHIGE, I think, February 1945


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:19 PM

Noshu Ju Kaneshige (Resident of Mino Province Kaneshige) and Showa Ju KU Nen Ni Gatsu Hi (Showa 19 year 2 month day: a day in February of 1944)

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#5 Stephen

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:31 PM

gee any one else for Kaneshige?  LoL


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#6 drb 1643

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:22 AM

Gentlemen, thank you all very much! That was a very fast reply! In the future If I have any other translations I will post in the appropriate forum.
Thanks again,
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#7 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:15 AM

Yes, 1944, easy mistake!

The tiny stamp above the date is the "Na" of the Nagoya Arsenal. The star stamp "normally" represents a traditionally made blade, but MUCH debate on that. The addition of the arsenal stamp "could" indicate that it is not Japanese tamahagane steel, therefore not traditionally classed. The kanji writing style is high quality, so it would be nice to see pics of the rest of the blade and blade tip.
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Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:44 PM

With the Star stamp it may well be. As others id like to see the blade


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:54 PM

Here are some pictures as requested. If you need any more please let me know. Sorry for the poor quality, I'm using a camera on my phone.
Thanks again gentlemen for all your help and advice.
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Posted 20 March 2017 - 04:09 PM

Very well made blade, my guess is true gendaito. Nice pick up!


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 05:54 PM

Dang! Highest quality Type 3 fittings I've ever seen! What a great find! Hope your seller didn't know what he had! ;)
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Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:04 PM

a type 44 with silver mon on the kabuto-gane, iv never seen that before. very very very nice find


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#13 drb 1643

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:50 PM

Thank you all very much for your comments and expertise. Yes, the seller knew what he had but he wasn't sure of the smith. I see that there are several Kaneshige's, could this possibly be the 1 million yen smith?
Thank you all again,
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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:18 PM

Dont find one signing that way, RJT smith so a good blade, Id contact Chris B. hell know more about him.

https://www.facebook...28933930663768/his facebook study group 


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#15 drb 1643

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 11:52 PM

Thank you very much Steve, but what is a RJT smith? Sorry for my ignorance.
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#16 Dave R

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 11:58 PM

As a quick and dirty answer...

https://www.japanese...com/gendai2.htm


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#17 drb 1643

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 02:14 AM

Thank you very much Dave for that link. It's very interesting.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:24 PM

I believe the mon is Ando if you wondered. Don't have my mon book right in front but, I remember since the leaf is other direction than the kato mon (I'm looking for a Kato mon)

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