Jump to content


Photo

Hayashi Copy?


  • Please log in to reply
6 replies to this topic

#1 andreYes

andreYes

    Jo Saku

  • Members
  • 179 posts
  • LocationMoscow, Russia

Posted 15 March 2017 - 12:23 AM

Just curious about this tsuba from Yahoo:

http://page18.auctio...tion/w171218354

 

- the shape is very similar to the examples from Sasano book. 

What's wrong with it? Iron quality?

Couldn't it be the Hayashi's tsuba for this price...


Andrey E.

tsubaka.ru

#2 Toryu

Toryu

    Sai Jo Saku

  • Members
  • 1,086 posts
  • Locationat San Francisco in California

Posted 15 March 2017 - 07:09 AM

Andrey
keep looking for examples of Hayashi work - I think you will see for yourself that this doesnt compare well. The iron looks dry, lifeless, the seppa dai is perfectly flat while the rest appears molded but not well, almost muddy. I would not spend a lot of time on this one.
-t

Thomas C Helm
Northern California Japanese Sword Club

http://www.toryu-mon.com


#3 Curran

Curran

    Sai Jo Saku

  • Members
  • 2,154 posts
  • LocationUSA

Posted 15 March 2017 - 09:30 PM

Patina on Hayashi tends to be rich.

See photo of [Kanshiro and Hayashi side by side]- Hayashi on the right is a good example of the iron patina.

 

The one you linked, looks dead flat like a penny left on a busy road.

Attached Thumbnails

  • Kanshiro and Hayashi 01.jpg

  • Greg F likes this

Michin nom Curran


#4 andreYes

andreYes

    Jo Saku

  • Members
  • 179 posts
  • LocationMoscow, Russia

Posted 16 March 2017 - 12:28 AM

Thomas, Curran, thank you very much for the comments!
Very convincing photo, it's a pleasure to look at such a beautiful patina!
 
Concerning the tsuba from Yahoo, I wonder, who've made it? It doesn't look like a modern copy (or does?), but it's obviously a copy, even tagane marks resemble the ones from Hayashi tsuba.

Andrey E.

tsubaka.ru

#5 Grey Doffin

Grey Doffin

    Tokubetsu Juyo

  • Members
  • 2,891 posts
  • LocationNorthern Minnesota, USA

Posted 16 March 2017 - 02:14 AM

Hi Andrey,

Don't discount the possibility that this is a modern copy; it may be.  I think there are quite a few new old tsuba coming out of Japan lately.  Sorry to say but I think true; buyer beware.

Grey



#6 Curran

Curran

    Sai Jo Saku

  • Members
  • 2,154 posts
  • LocationUSA

Posted 16 March 2017 - 03:33 AM

Grey is painfully correct.

I am partial to tree sukashi designs, and had to be careful when looking at some of the Higo / Akasaka ones.

 

I've been so cautious on the ones coming out of Japan that I almost balked and didn't buy a very good one the other month.

I may be purchasing another one soon, but subject to approval for fear it might be one of the increasingly good copies out of Japan the last few years.

With some of them, it is difficult to tell from photos. When the show up:  you either cheer up :glee: , or tear up :freak: .


Michin nom Curran


#7 andreYes

andreYes

    Jo Saku

  • Members
  • 179 posts
  • LocationMoscow, Russia

Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:08 PM

Very sad news for me that the quality of modern copies increases... I prefer old good chinese fakes - there is no doubt with them :)
Internet purchases become more and more difficult.

Andrey E.

tsubaka.ru




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

IPB Skin By Virteq