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#1 mywifesgunakillme

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:03 AM

Can anyone tell me what the writing says on the slide?  I have had several of these pistols, but I don't know what the writing is on this one.  Thank you.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 02:23 PM

If possible some close ups of the kanji and arsenal stamps/markings would help alot.


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#3 mywifesgunakillme

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 03:50 AM

Unfortunately, I'm at the mercy of the owner for better pics.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 04:11 AM

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:39 AM

Hello,

 

Did you try to Google "Nambu", the name of this Japanese gun ?

You may find more information about it and maybe a translation.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:06 PM

He knows this is a Nambu. These are not typical marks. I am curious myself. Also never seen this short barrel version of a Type 14?


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#7 PNSSHOGUN

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:37 PM

He knows this is a Nambu. These are not typical marks. I am curious myself. Also never seen this short barrel version of a Type 14?

Me either, I'm wondering if it is a custom field modification. I have never seen or heard of a variant like this expect for the "baby" Type B Nambu. Perhaps these kanji can shed some more light on this unique example.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 05:45 PM

It may be a Chinese type 19 based on the Nambu type 14. Check the Chinese version. John


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:48 PM

Dear all.

 

I'm well outside my comfort zone but from, "Hand Cannons of Imperial Japan", by Harry Darby, page137. "A number of type 14's have been reported with barrels shorter than the standard 117mm length.  Several have also been adorned with special simulated characters, symbols and numerals, perhaps as an indication that the barrel was in fact, "officially" modified by the Japanese military."  He goes on to illustrate a gun identical to the one in this thread with the caption, "Short barreled T-14's are are the products of "basement arsenals."  The gun he shows has identical markings to this one.

 

Hope that helps.

 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:53 PM

It may be a Chinese type 19 based on the Nambu type 14. Check the Chinese version. John

I think only a handful of those still exist and they have a different trigger mechanism. I think I can make out Nagoya arsenal stamps and 1943 date stamp, the mystery deepens!

EDIT: Mystery solved, thank you Geraint.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 05:20 AM

Thanks to everyone who has replied to this post. You all are a great source of knowledge. I had someone else say the writing is translated "For military use/warfare unit" and it has two dates, 18.11 and 19.7.

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#12 mywifesgunakillme

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 05:41 AM

Was able to get a few additional pictures.

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 06:50 AM

The big letters say 兵器部 (arms/weapons section). The small letters on the barrel say 軍用 (military use). I'm a bit suspicious of the lettering...


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#14 Geraint

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:14 AM

Steve,

 

You are right to be suspicious.

 

 

 

adorned with special simulated characters, symbols and numerals

 

Darby also says that , "Several reliable Japanese ordnance experts have confirmed that the only the prescribed barrel length and 8mm calibre were ever adopted by the military."    Hi style of writing is a little odd but he clealry concludes that these were not official pistols but were marked to make it look as though they were.

 

All the best.


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