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#1 charlie1

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 06:13 PM

Looking for another example of a early army pinned fittings with smooth paint with the extra hanger. It is referred to as "General" mounts in the Dawson book. However, the example in the Dawson is the later type paint. The smith is Ishido Teruhide for the example I studied.

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#2 The_ozzy_samurai

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 01:02 PM

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:08 PM



Yes, that's it. Just looking for some comparison betweeen the two. So any addition pictures would be great.

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#4 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 06:28 PM

Charlie,

I don't understand what you mean by the term "general mounts."? The 2 belt hanger ashi make this a Type 94. 94's had a removable ashi and a permanent one. All the other fittings are standard shingunto. Is that what you mean, or is it simply the general officer's tassel that is generating the term?

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 01:52 PM

I suppose Generals would have high quality custom army pattern mounts, perhaps that is what he is looking for?


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:01 AM

Sorry for the delay. Page 158-159 of the Dawson book. Type 94 with general grade tassel and lower removable ashi. The one I was studying has early type smooth paint. The one pictured in the Dawson book is the later paint type. Not too many examples with these type of quality fittings. Just asking if someone is kind enough to share pictures of a example.

 

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#7 Ian B3HR2UH

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:33 AM

Hi Charlie , I don't think that there is a difference between paints with one being early and another being late . I am sure it just depends on which sword shop you went to and how much you wanted to spend . Ian Brooks


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 05:27 AM

 The koshirae doesn't denote the rank.  The Tassel denotes the rank.  If it is a fairdinkum generals koshirae, there should be some sort of provenance.


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 02:30 PM

There is a difference in the early mounts with the "pinned" fittings. Most don't even notice when they are pinned in except when one is missing. The paint tone is lighter tone paint. From experience the pinned fittings are earlier and paint is different. It's not explained in the Dawson. I misspoke in my first message general mounts (going off memory) but the fittings are premium with gold trim. Please notice the my second message with "general tassel".
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#10 Bruce Pennington

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 07:53 PM

Yes, I noticed the pins in Julian's example above. Never noticed that before! Cool!




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