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#1 Katsujinken

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 09:26 PM

https://www.amazon.c...E0I7LNUVV&psc=1

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:57 AM

Hello Michael, I beleive there was something about these here a while back. I think it was Ken who had used them but not %100.

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 02:04 AM

Greg is right, do a search it should come up.


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Posted 01 March 2017 - 02:11 AM

Thanks will do!
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Posted 01 March 2017 - 03:49 AM

Yup, it was me. Those ZCORR bags are wonderful, Michael! I bought a blade that was in really lousy shape, but no slot was available for polishing for many months. So I just stuck the blade in one of those bags, & time came to a stop for it, as far as further corrosion went. Works equally well for firearms, too.

 

I like the bags so much, that I actually became one of their dealers! Highly recommended!

 

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#6 Katsujinken

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 05:41 AM

Ordered! Thanks.
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Posted 02 March 2017 - 04:48 PM

Ken, do the chemicals inside the bags affect the state of polish on the sword? My swords are all in top condition with high-end polish. The last thing I would want on them is some sort of vapour / haze / film / coating on them that diminishes or ruins the polish.
Also, how do you store the blades inside - merely in the shirasaya or shirasaya wrapped in the silk bag and the whole silk bag into one of those protective foil/Velcro covers?
Thank you so much for the help,
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Posted 02 March 2017 - 09:35 PM

I've seen no sign at all that there is ANY change in the polish, Michael. I've stored blades in them as bare & in shirasaya, as well as bare-metal firearms & airguns, & have seen no change in anything that I could detect. You can also store them in koshirae &/or the silk bags.

 

These bags were originally made for the military to keep their weapons in while in harsh tropical conditions, & I doubt that the admirals & generals would tolerate an environment that changed anything at all. Hope this helps.

 

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#9 Gakusee

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 10:11 PM

Thanks, Ken, appreciate the prompt response. Here it rains throughout the year (perhaps less in the summer) so bags like this will be really handy if they do not affect negatively whatever is inserted in them.
Cheers,
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Posted 02 March 2017 - 10:21 PM

They're not very conducive to display, but the additional peace of mind is more than worth it. Thanks everyone.
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Posted 02 March 2017 - 10:24 PM

I live across the street from the Pacific Ocean, get an average 56 inches of rain each year, & our relative humidity never gets below 55%, so if the bags work for me here in the tropics, they should work for everyone! I became their local dealer because many people have items that they want to protect long-term from rust, but it was Nihonto that got me started with them. I've been using the bags for about 4-1/2 years, Michael, & the only thing that I can point out is that their Velcro seals are very, very strong!

 

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:15 PM

Hello,

 

 

This has had great result on my 'projects' so far. Zero complaints

 

 

https://www.wd40spec...sion-inhibitor/


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 01:19 PM

You would not use that on Nihonto I hope.
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Posted 11 March 2017 - 04:07 PM

I did and I can say I see nothing but a great result. Not to mention that once I wipe it down (which is much easier than cleaning choji oil) I can see much more 'clean' steel. Of course I don't insist you put it on your blades, that is my experience and what I saw as an improvement on a pretty old shikakke 30" blade is what led me to believe this may be useful long term, project or not.
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Posted 11 March 2017 - 04:25 PM

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 04:39 PM

I would likewise recommend against experimenting with chemical rust inhibitors on an old and valuable sword. Choji oil will come off fully in one wipe with a $10 microfibre cloth off Amazon.com.

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:07 PM

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WD 40 IS NOT recommended for use on Nihonto, any newbies reading this thread please go with the tried and true method. 


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#18 DaViebaPutkataMamina

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:15 PM

Green Dragon, here a togishi I wish to recommend you...
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Lol. Thanks
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#19 DaViebaPutkataMamina

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:16 PM

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WD 40 IS NOT recommended for use on Nihonto, any newbies reading this thread please go with the tried and true method.


I am now changing it back to choji oil..I don't see anything negative to be honest..
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#20 DaViebaPutkataMamina

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:17 PM

I would likewise recommend against experimenting with chemical rust inhibitors on an old and valuable sword. Choji oil will come off fully in one wipe with a $10 microfibre cloth off Amazon.com.
- Ray


Thanks. I thought those microfiber cloths scratch the surface, no?
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#21 raymondsinger

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:20 PM

That is the very point. They remove oils without scratching delicate surfaces.
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#22 DaViebaPutkataMamina

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:27 PM

That is the very point. They remove oils without scratching delicate surfaces.


I have been using them but I noticed slight scratching that is the reason to ask (unless they have been picking up stuff along the way).. so I followed the aoi advice and use what they have suggested. Not the wd stuff lol
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#23 raymondsinger

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:42 PM

Then you are using the wrong microfibre cloth.

https://www.amazon.c...h/dp/B0002E3WGI
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#24 DaViebaPutkataMamina

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 06:14 PM

Then you are using the wrong microfibre cloth.
https://www.amazon.c...h/dp/B0002E3WGI


Thanks.
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