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#1 yamabiru

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 03:53 PM

Reposting this as it was lost in the problem

So the Tobacco and Salt museum in Tokyo (JT) confirmed what I thought that kiseru started out around 1600 with large bowls , hizara, and then proceeded to shrink over the next two and a half centuries

https://www.jti.co.j.../t11/index.html

◆きせる(江戸初期〜幕末)
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My collection with oldest at top
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17th century bronze!
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#2 Brian

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 04:58 PM

Extensive collection! Congrats.


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#3 Jean

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 07:42 PM

As a pipe smoker, very nice collection :)
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#4 yamabiru

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 04:09 PM

Thanks much gents! Took a few years of hard work.

Tokyo Edo museum also confirms some of my pipes are 17 th C.

https://www.edo-toky...された江戸の町-一橋高校遺跡出


The oldest kiseru is at the bottom , found in strata layer 4 of their excavation
Next up also layer 4 both from approx before the time of great fire of 1657
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Explanations of strata
https://www.edo-toky...syo201606_3.jpg

https://www.edo-toky...syo201606_2.jpg

The two kiseru styles at the top are therefore post 1657.

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#5 John A Stuart

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 11:43 PM

I have one modern one just to place in my case for completeness. I have used one before with loose tobacco and it was harsh, very harsh. I see them used to hold cigarrettes occasionally. Use would be almost a ritual, packing, lighting, smoking, tapping out the wattle, repeat. John



#6 Dr Fox

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 11:51 PM

Well done you, very interesting. Same idea here in the UK, where clay pipes are collected.

Thanks for that.


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