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Poll: Kantei Competition (35 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you participate in the below-mentioned competition?

  1. Yes I would have a go. (31 votes [88.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 88.57%

  2. No thanks, I politely decline (1 votes [2.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.86%

  3. No thanks, but I will contribute anyways (3 votes [8.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.57%

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#1 Rayhan


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:11 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen! As the title says we are putting together a Kantei competition for all to participate.


Firstly what are you all competing for?


1st Prize:

A Nobutaka (10th Generation) Katana in full polish and with Hozon Papers.

The sword has a Nagasa of 28 inches and 3.2 cm on the Hamachi with a Kasane of 0.7cm.

Truly a wonderful sword with many generations of life to be treasured. As we know the Nobutaka line is a prestigious one and all of them were excellent smiths. Forged at the time just before civil war hit Japan when the Shogunate was opposed to the Imperial forces vying for a change in eras.


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2nd Prize:

A Hozon Papered Tsuba from the Edo Period


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3rd to 5th place prize:

One brand new copy of the book “The Art of the Japanese Sword” by Yoshindo Yoshihara, Leon and Hiroko Kapp




So how do you compete?


There will be 3 detailed pictures provided by the judging panel from NMB! You must complete the Kantei with accuracy:

To be legible you must:



1) Be a member of NMB (or sign up)

2) Donate $30USD to compete

3) Complete the Kantei in the given time frame of 3 months

4) You must submit one answer per bade and only one, this must include the Period, Smith and School or tradition and any additional information you have. Please be informed that the judges and Admin will not accept edited answers so post carefully and research well. The more detailed your answer the better your chances of coming up on top, this is not a completion of just naming; you must demonstrate reason and research.

5) You must list your exact sources of information gathering that helped you determine the answers

6) Your full name as per your tag on NMB.


The prizes will be shipped to you at no extra cost to yourselves should you win.


This is a competition for Nihonto ladies and gents so NMB expect the dedication to this Kantei to be sincere.


The donation money you give goes towards:


The forum from the hosting to domain names, the hosting and maintenance of the http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/by Rich S which NMB admin also maintains (Thank you guys)! The internet access, the expensive software powering the site and last but most important is the security software. So for those of you that thought NMB operated free, think again.

Please register your interest on this thread and we shall begin as soon as we have 60 interested individuals (registering your interest does not require payment until the Kantei pictures are up)


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#2 Darcy


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:31 AM

Well that is very kind and generous. 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:34 AM

Ahhhhh, speechless.  I haven't got a hope, but 3months??  I'll give it a shot.  Count me in.



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#4 Kronos


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:39 AM

Sign me up, that is a very generous offer and should be a lot of fun.


I expect there to be a lot of competition with the big guns coming out to play; like Baz I don't think I have a snowballs chance in hell but will be a good learning experience.

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#5 Dennis benn

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:28 AM

I would love to be part of this competition sound sfun and a great way to learn more knowledge of nihonto . How do I sign up ?

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:58 AM

How many post on this? Again im in.
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#7 Jussi Ekholm

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 11:11 AM

You guys are putting up an awesome competition. Count me in too. :) I am always up for kantei chance.

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#8 Rayhan


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 11:15 AM

Keep It coming guys, we need 60 confirmed contestants to make it work!

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 01:11 PM

Count me in  :clap:

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 02:59 PM

Count me in how do I donate the $30 and sign up
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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:40 PM

Let me add that this whole idea, and the prizes themselves, come from Rayhan himself. An unbelievable gesture. :clap: :clap: :clap:
More info will be posted on how to participate and what to do. We will have to consider how much info people are allowed to give or share or discuss on the thread itself, to prevent people from just going with the popular choices.
Everyone has a shot at this. The kantei blades will be achievable. They will mostly conform to their traits. No tricks or red herrings that you wouldn't find in a real kantei.
Given the limits of online kantei, there will be enough pictures and detail shown. And above all, anyone who participates WILL learn a lot.
May even try to find some prizes like eBooks etc for novices who show progress etc.
I'll add a poll tomorrow to see who is participating. You couldn't ask for a better prize!

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#12 Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:13 PM

I'm in,

Wonderful  and generous idea,.let me know when and how to pay

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#13 Ken-Hawaii


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:10 PM

Count me in, too. Sounds like fun!  :thumbsup:




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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:11 PM

I am in. Look forward to it.


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#15 Randy McCall

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:21 PM

Sure, I'll take a crack, if only to support NMB  (Translation: "Lot'sa luck, newbie"  :) )

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#16 John A Stuart

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 11:13 PM

Great idea. John

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 11:22 PM

30 sent if it doesn't get off the ground just keep a yearly dues 

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 03:22 AM

I have no chance to win but give to NMB roughly every year anyway, so I may as well go for it.   Count me in!  

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 06:17 AM

Sounds like fun! I'm in.


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 06:27 AM

Count me in.


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#21 bluboxer


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:32 AM

I'll join in.


#22 Rayhan


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 09:20 AM

Hi all 


Quick update for you that have registered. We have solidified the judging panel.


A big thank you to Darcy, Jean, Ted Tenold and Mike Yamasaki for agreeing to be our judgment panel. Please be aware that although the panel cannot compete in the competition they are the front line in decision making, so Kantei to impress ladies and gents. 


Few more sign ups would be good, anymore brave samurai?

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:56 AM

I'm in too  :)

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#24 Greg F

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:44 PM

Thats very kind of you to donate the prize Rayhan. Good job mate.


#25 Rayhan


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Posted 10 February 2017 - 05:44 PM

No problem Greg, so I take it you are in? :)



#26 Alex A

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 08:57 PM

I want to win a Nihonto, il give it a go.


#27 Henry Wilson

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 12:07 AM

A wonderful idea. Just one question, what happens if lots of people get the kantei right? How will the winners be decided?
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#28 Rayhan


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 01:47 AM

@Henry - great question sir, basically the judges will determine the outcome but if it's a strong enough case we will have a tiebreak round and still have a magic bullet prize for the fantastic efforts but that would mean the answers were extremely detailed and wonderfully done. Honestly let's get the 60 on board first, I'm starting to wonder what we have to do to get more sign ups?

#29 reeder


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Posted 11 February 2017 - 02:12 AM

Wow, very generous, 👍

Might I suggest a couple things to increase participation and raised contributions. Why not make the sword won by raffle? To be considered you must still submit the required research by the deadline with a genuine attempt. That way it provides incentives to more than the usual suspects to do some independent research, have a go at putting something together, and sharing findings. Unless this is a prize for the main researchers then that makes sense. Those of us newer collectors have no chance against 30 year veterans with massive reference collections and far more blades studied in hand. Give 5 or 10 buy-ins at $30 each, per participant.

Have the other prizes based on the content of the research judged by the panel.

I feel this would raise more funds for NMB through more donations with more of a chance to win the sword, push more folks to actually do the research while maintaining the research requirement after making the donations, and level the playing field.

Just a thought that can be ignored of course. Lol.
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#30 Greg F

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 04:24 AM

I havnt got into the Kantei side ov things too much yet and recently had an eye operation so sight not %100 yet but for the sake of contributing i will sign up. Im going to need to get my paypal sorted 1st so hopefully enough time. Cheers.

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