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#1 PNSSHOGUN

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 03:45 PM

I recently bought this wakizashi on ebay, with a Moriie signature and dated "Muromachi" era. Now I have done some looking myself into Moriie, there were quite a few it seems, ranging from the famous Hatakeda Moriie to standard Muromachi smiths.

 

Can anyone help me identify or give me a better clue as to which generation Moriie this could be? There was a note on the registration card from a previous owner that thought it may be 2nd or 3rd generation Moriie, but at the price I paid I sincerely doubt that as those smiths have very high Fujishiro, Toko Taikan and Hawley ratings.

 

The sword itself is in very good condition, and seems to have been polished quite a few times in its life due to the thin hamon and two small ware.

 

Please find attached images of the sword, with the mei seen on the middle.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

 

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#2 Alex A

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 05:14 PM

Hi John, difficult from the pictures, could do with better photos and description of the blade details. Looks to be a Suguha hamon, theres a few Moriie towards the end of the Muromachi period who mainly use that style of hamon.

 

I think your right about Ebay too, I would expect it to be one of the lesser known Moriie, maybe even Shinto (I think there is Shinto), you need to compare the work.


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 05:14 AM

Thanks Alex, I'll get some better shots when I can, these were the sellers photos.

 

Here are the specs

Nagasa:46.3cm(18.2in) (all length 66cm(25.98in))

Sori:1cm(0.39in)

Motohaba:25mm(0.98in)

Motokasane:5mm(0.19in)

Sakishige:about 30mm(1.18in)

Mei:守家造之
 

Hada is O-Mokume, hamon suguha and very thin, there is a slight bend in the blade as well, so it has been used on something tough in its lifetime it seems. Two meguki-ana. The blade has certainly been polished a few times, as there are a few openings but the steel is still bright and the last polish was a good one. Overall for the price I paid this is in excellent condition.

Hope this helped, thank you.

 


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#4 Jussi Ekholm

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 11:53 AM

I would be very cautious with a sword with 守家 Moriie signature. At first I would think this as Muromachi period wakizashi with gimei 守家 signature.


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 08:33 AM

Yes, I agree, however the mei isn't a match for any of the famous or highly rated Moriie generations that I have found so far. I don't mind either way as the sword itself is quite nice. Hopefully someone can recognize the correct generation or period.

 

I have some high res shots now, please find them attached:
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Posted 03 January 2017 - 12:26 AM

Hi John, maybe someone knows better than me, but I cant cant find enough info on the lesser known Moriie to come up with anything of use.

 

Always got to be wary when buying from Ebay, as Jussi points out with the mei.

 

A lot of swords on Ebay are the end result of someone knowing better (they know the sword is gimei/ wont pass shinsa/has not passed shinsa etc)

 

Period, id say late Muromachi- Early Shinto.(best I can come up with)

 

If you find anything out, be good to see.


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#7 PNSSHOGUN

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 04:38 AM

Thanks Alex, looks like you came to the same deadend that I did for the later generations, there really isn't much information around.

 

Well at the end of the day it's a nice sword in good polish for a nominal price, regardless of mei.

 

 

 

Though if anyone can confirm it's 1st generation Moriie.....drinks are on me ;) 


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