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#1 IJASWORDS

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 06:58 AM

HI all, I got this pretty little (22inch) WW2 mounted sword, I have been told, is SOTEN. Nice engraved silver HABAKI with hundreds of little stars, MUMEI, with a provision for a SARUTE.
I would love to learn more about its age locality or any thing else about it. The fittings look like a SAMURAI helmet, Samurai battle fan etc.
Looking forward to hearing from you, Neil.

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#2 Geraint

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 05:51 PM

Hi Neil,

 

  Whoever told you the sword was Soten may have miscommunicated.  Soten is a school of tsuba makers and I couldn't comment based on your pictures.  We will all want to see a view of the whole sword with the tsuka and tsuba removed.  Please do some shots and give us some more measurements.  A full frontal picture of the tsuba will also help us to give you more information.

 

Looking forward to seeing what you have got.

 

All the best.


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#3 Stephen

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 06:26 PM

All fittings look very good at first light, close up need as requested


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#4 IJASWORDS

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 11:02 PM

Hi, I hope the attached photos help with identification. My interest is WW2 swords and I certainly show my ignorance when it comes to NIHONTO. I have some "old" blades in WW2 KOSHIRAE, and will probably have to post photos here over time to get a proper identification of them. Looked up SOTEN and yes, found it is a school of fittings. Even saw an example like mine, open work with SAMURAI MEMPO and HELMET designs. Any way appreciate your honest opinions. Neil.  

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 11:39 PM

Neil

 

Nice Wakizashi, i dont think we need anymore group photos, rather close ups to tell quality of work.


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#6 IJASWORDS

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 03:14 AM

Hi, what would you like close up photos of? I am happy to oblige. This will point me in the right direction for other posts in future. Neil
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 03:17 AM

Fuchi, kashira, tsuba, any activity you can capture on blades hada, hamon, kissaki.


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#8 Stephen

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 03:35 AM

some thing to shoot for

http://www.aoijapan....gs/fuchikashira

http://www.aoijapan.com/fittings/tsuba

 

http://www.aoijapan....chizen-kanenori


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#9 Stephen

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 03:42 AM

classic soten 

 

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#10 IJASWORDS

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 06:34 AM

Hi, (thanks Stephen great links), Hope these photos help. It is with an iPhone, and I cant do any better!! Sorry. If you could look at these in conjunction with the other posts it may help. Neil.

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#11 IJASWORDS

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 06:52 AM

Stephen, finally got a HAMON shot by eliminating bright light. Neil.

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 04:24 PM

 

I really cant help much every thing looks to middle of the road, sword and fittings, would like to see kashira. 


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#13 IJASWORDS

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 11:54 PM

Hi Stephen, did my best to photograph KASHIRA. Hope it helps, Neil.

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 12:16 AM

interesting first ive seen like that, fuchi may better quality than thought if it matches


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#15 IJASWORDS

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 12:49 AM

Hi Stephen, yes there is quality and matching SAMURAI theme. The KASHIRA is a SAMURAI helmet, the FUCHI has a SAMURAI face mask (MEMPO), the TSUBA has a SAMURAI battle fan. The MENUKI look like SAMURAI warriors (but covered by wrapping). I have seen this SOTEN theme some where before but cant remember where. Hope we are getting closer to a landing. Neil.

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 04:06 AM

Your pic skills are getting better. Try taking pics of the tsuba again with it elevated above the carpet. It seems your camera was focusing on carpet instead of tsuba
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Posted 01 November 2016 - 01:04 AM

Thanks, will do. Neil
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