1853 Enfield Markings
Posted 18 September 2016 - 03:20 PM
Posted 18 September 2016 - 04:48 PM
"Number 5613 Hiroshima-ken"
This looks like a Meiji ers gun registration number
Posted 18 September 2016 - 06:20 PM
Thanks for the help Peter.
Its an Artillery carbine with 3 groove rifling, the lock is dated 1866.
Posted 18 September 2016 - 07:45 PM
Posted 18 September 2016 - 10:13 PM
Holy crap! I've struck out from Friday on this one.
I am spending the day packing up my sword library in preparation for a move to be closer to our granddaughters. I opened the initial message as a break and took a quick hip shot that was wide of the mark. - TWICE. OMG. Then I thought I would help by seeing what Francis Allen and the Banzai guys had to say about Enfield carbines, But I think I packed that (terrific) volume a couple of days ago. Peter get a copy of it, I am sure that your will find it useful (even if I ain't)
Steve, can you change my name on the earlier messages?
PS. And BTW, do you have any idea what a sword library weighs?
Posted 19 September 2016 - 10:28 AM
Thanks Peter, I will try and get a copy of that book.
I will also post some more photos when I have the gun next weekend.
Posted 19 September 2016 - 05:47 PM
This page describes the Banzai volume on early imported arms in Japan. I admire it deeply, altho I have the feeling that as collectors get organized - worldwide - it may become a milestone long passed.
And I cannot find my copy! It is somewhere in those boxes of books.
Posted 19 September 2016 - 06:07 PM
Posted 24 September 2016 - 03:29 PM
I discovered the gun has another inscription on the brass butt plate. Looks like a rack number (5857) from being stored in an armoury perhaps?
There is also another line of kanji on the stock but it is very feint and hard to see but definitely ends with a yama.
Posted 24 September 2016 - 04:27 PM
I'm sorry but I can't see your "yama" ( 山) I can see a serial number five thousand, six hundred and thirteen then the "ban" kanji 番 and then three further kanji, the first two of which I think are Hiroshima (廣島) but I can't get the third one.
Posted 24 September 2016 - 04:29 PM
Sorry Peter and Peter, I should have read to the top of the thread.
Posted 24 September 2016 - 04:41 PM
Posted 25 September 2016 - 01:08 AM
You can see what looks like a Yama quite clearly but the rest above is too heavily worn out to see.
Posted 08 October 2016 - 09:24 AM
In the book there is an Enfield Cavalry carbine with the same Hiroshima registration marks. I contacted the author and he was quite surprised to see another and suspected both carbines may have come from the same Han unit.
Posted 08 October 2016 - 10:35 AM
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