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#1 Bruno

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 09:47 AM

Hi guys,

 

I am looking for a gendaito by one of of these 4 smiths :

 

- Kato Kanekuni, Kato Masakuni, Kato Sakekuni (First generation) from Tokyo.

- Ota Chikahide from Shizuoka

 

 

 

 Preferably not suguba hamon and without serial number(s) on the nakago, ubu nakago with nengo. Nagasa not under 27 inches or 68 cm, could be a naked blade, in shirasaya, gunto mount or traditional koshirae.

 

Do not hesitate to PM me.

 

Thanks


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Posted 09 August 2016 - 09:56 PM

Nice little list you have there. I sent a PM with a potential lead.

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 11:32 PM

Dont know as much a GendaiJoe, all Tokyo smiths? linage from who?


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Posted 10 August 2016 - 03:02 AM

The Kato brothers are sons of Kato Sanehira and grandsons of Kato Kanekuni. They're a family lineage all to themselves like the Horii's.

I'm not sure who Chikehide studied under but he spent time in a few places, including Tokyo, so he likely had a couple masters. A list of good smiths and pretty underrated all of them.
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Posted 10 August 2016 - 06:04 PM

Bruno, if you get ahold of a blade by Chikahide please post some pics. My favourite sword is a Chikahide with the original Kai-gunto mounts. How I wish to some day find a Chikahide in or with Type 98 mounts to accompany it.

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 06:43 PM

One of the more beautiful gendaito I have seen was an Ota Chikahide that Moses Becerra sold. I likewise would appreciate seeing additional examples of his work.

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 06:49 PM

One of the more beautiful gendaito I have seen was an Ota Chikahide that Moses Becerra sold. I likewise would appreciate seeing additional examples of his work.
Best regards,
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That's mine :-)
Very glad to hear it from someone like you.
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Posted 10 August 2016 - 07:21 PM

CHIKAHIDE (親秀), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Shizuoka – “Ōta Chikahide” (太田親秀), “Tōtōmi-jū Ōta Chikahida” (遠江住太田親秀), real name Ōta Harutoki (太田春時), born March 20th 1893, besides of his hometown Inasa (引佐), he also worked in Tōkyō and in Ōsaka, jōko no jōi (Akihide), First Seat at the 6th Shinsaku Nihontō Denrankai (新作日本刀展覧会, 1941)
 
So this guy huh...seems a lot worked with that Joker Akihide

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 08:38 PM

http://www.nihontoan...de 129 copy.jpg

This sword?
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Posted 10 August 2016 - 08:44 PM

WOW!!! That is a stunner!! very good eye!!


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#11 Daniel

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 08:47 PM

Yes!

http://www.militaria...-ota-chikahide/
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Posted 10 August 2016 - 08:50 PM

Wow. Stunning!


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Posted 10 August 2016 - 09:05 PM

Chris or owner of pic had to save that to file hard to close it.


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Posted 11 August 2016 - 08:19 PM

It's not my pic  :(

It is from Nihontoantiques.com A Website i often visit to study the very nice pictures there.  :thumbsup:

 

Maybe sometime, i would own a sword there, if i had the money  :laughing:


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Posted 12 August 2016 - 05:39 PM

Beautiful sword Daniel. Thanks for sharing.

 

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Posted 27 August 2016 - 12:47 PM

Hi guys,

 

Thanks for all the replies.

 

Sorry for not answering before (I thought I would get notified by email if someone would post on this topic!), my mistake! :doh:

 

Yes I think they are all top smiths and would be fully satisfied to own one sword by each. All in all, they are "only" 4 swords but that would be plenty enough for me for a private collection.

 

You are correct Daniel, Chikahide is a terrific smith and your blade is absolutely stunning. For the other Tokyo smiths I must admit I have been a little bit influenced by Mr Bowen. Thanks to him again.

 

There is one Sukehiro at the moment on Ebay, which has a very nice hamon, but I don't like very much the treatment the seller does to his swords. 

 

I am also interested in a swords by this Tomita Sukehiro.


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Posted 27 August 2016 - 01:27 PM

Not to worried, its to short anyway my friend.


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Posted 27 August 2016 - 01:50 PM

Not to worried, its to short anyway my friend.

Hi Stephen,

 

 

Yep, not a very long nagasa...It seems from 68 cm and more gendaito are often of better quality. 


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Posted 27 August 2016 - 01:53 PM

The Kato brothers are sons of Kato Sanehira and grandsons of Kato Kanekuni. They're a family lineage all to themselves like the Horii's.

I'm not sure who Chikehide studied under but he spent time in a few places, including Tokyo, so he likely had a couple masters. A list of good smiths and pretty underrated all of them.

 

Underrated maybe but Chikahide's swords are not especially cheap!  ;-) 

 

Gendaito are a bit underrated among nihonto.


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 03:50 AM

PM sent about Ota Chikahide
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 04:26 AM

Chikahide Ota

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 05:42 AM

dont work


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Posted 30 October 2016 - 10:34 AM

Yep, privacy setting. Can't be viewed.


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 08:05 AM


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 08:06 AM

I know the video is terrible at showing details. Sorry guys.
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Posted 31 October 2016 - 02:00 PM

Waited 2mins and it still didnt load, not sure if its trouble on my end or if its the vid.

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 03:29 PM

works now for me nice sword, few distractions in viewing lol ...nice family...who did the polish?


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#28 Greg F

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 04:41 PM

Worked this time.
Nice Sword with beautiful hamon Jim, congrats.

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 06:26 PM

Beautiful blade and nice kids Jim. Please start a new topic and post some photos of the blade.
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Posted 03 December 2016 - 08:13 AM

Was the sword in the video sold at Touken Komachi a few years ago?

 

Chikahide swords are relatively inexpensive despite his high reputation in sword contests. A Japanese dealer sold one recently for Y250,000 in gunto mount.

 

 

Wah






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