Jump to content

Kuro Raku Tea Bowl


Aloof Pegasus

Recommended Posts

With Aiko most of her production is covetable in my eyes, whereas with most of the other potters, her male competition, it's more difficult to find something to live with. Christian described a tokkuri as 'cruel' looking and I was struck with the term's accuracy. If I can point you towards Fujinoki Dohei who makes beautiful Karatsu ware.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here's his website.

 

Doheigama.hananusubito.net

 

http://doheigama.hananusubito.net/item-anagama-sake.html

 

is a shop in Ginza, no online sales but look how nice that Karatsu sakazuki is!!!! The one in the middle with 灰被片口酒器 唐津灰被酒呑 唐津灰被酒呑 唐津灰被手びねり酒呑

 

That one is typical ash colour but the one below by a happy chance came out with typical traditional Karatsu colouring even though from the ash.

 

He's in Saga.

post-427-0-98331700-1426905210_thumb.jpg

post-427-0-83050000-1426905304_thumb.jpg

post-427-0-18128900-1426905320_thumb.jpg

post-427-0-17325400-1426905360_thumb.jpg

post-427-0-66747800-1426908052_thumb.jpg

post-427-0-02008300-1426908072_thumb.jpg

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Great idea for a new section !  Just read through it and was impressed with the number of beautiful pieces and how many people here seem to appreciate the beauty of pottery. Though I confess, I could have lived forever without the reference to the relationship of the sex organ/koudai  :-)

 

While I am not very educated on makers, schools, etc., I have been acquiring various pieces of Japanese pottery for some time.  Much like Chris stated, I too simply acquire pieces which appeal to me.  First introduced by Dean Hartley years ago, I slowly but surely developed a love for Japanese Pottery. Something about it's simple elegance (wabi-sabi) appealed to me. 

 

Seemingly, I am drawn to Oribe, Kuro-Oribe and Shigaraki primarily, though I have pieces of Shino, Karatsu, Seto, etc.  Within the Oribe and Kuro-Oribe groupings I have been fortunate to acquire not only Chawan, but Mizusashi, Chaire, Kogo and one Tokkuri. Still looking for Ko-Oribe tokkuri in traditional or black.

 

Chris, nice guinomi.  I also picked #1 as the non Japanese one, before reading the answer.  While a gorgeous cup, it appears a little "outside the box" in its shape.  Again, lovely but just enough non-traditional in it's style to give it away.  I really like guinomi and tokkuri but only have 10-12 total combined.  I prefer the older ones but do have a couple of newer ones received as gifts.

 

Since so many like pieces done in black, here is a Kuro Karatsu Chawan, by Nakazato XIII of the famous Nakazato Family.  His father was designated as a Living National Treasure in 1976.  He is the thirteenth generation of unbroken lineage dating back to the 17th century. The first generation "Nakazato Matashichi" died 1663.

 

 

post-10-0-35390400-1427039892_thumb.jpg

post-10-0-50681500-1427039909_thumb.jpg

post-10-0-77692400-1427039937_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Ed,

 

Beautiful chawan.  Thanks for posting the images.

 

You mentioned Oribe and kuro-Oribe in your post, and having a number of works of these types.  Are the pieces you have period (i.e. Momoyama), or later works?  Might you have any photos you could share of these?  ;) 

 

Cheers,

 

Steve

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Steve,

Again, just an amateur collector of pottery and the lack of any documentation provided, it is difficult for me to date these pieces with any certainty.  It is my understanding that Oribe pottery had it's beginning around 1600 and received it's name from the great tea master Furuta Oribe (1544-1615).  Having had the opportunity for in hand inspection of some very fine pieces both here and Japan, I tend to think these to be old, in fact I tend to refer to these as Ko-Oribe, but it is merely a gut feeling if you will.  

 

These pieces came from an old and fine collection in Japan.  They are without a doubt not new or modern, and were sold as Ko-Oribe, but to make a statement like Momoyama without some tangible evidence, provenance or verification is not something I would consider myself qualified to do.

 

If you care to shed some light, share your thoughts on them, I am all ears.

 

Here are a few photos of Oribe pieces.

post-10-0-65784500-1427051613_thumb.jpg

post-10-0-41206300-1427051646_thumb.jpg

post-10-0-15652200-1427051690_thumb.jpg

post-10-0-56457000-1427051769_thumb.jpg

post-10-0-81666300-1427051833_thumb.jpg

post-10-0-26020200-1427051865_thumb.jpg

post-10-0-57488100-1427051877_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

'I could have lived forever without the reference to the relationship of the sex organ/koudai '

 

Actually Ed...that was a joke. ???? Sorry. For the record Robert Yellin has this to say about koudai.

 

"More than that though, the kodai reveals the potter's skill and spirit. A good kodai should be carved like a master calligrapher wielding his willy...er er sorry a brush; spontaneous, with rhythm, delicate and yet at the same time powerful, pure."

 

 

The Houan teabowl has a lovely serene feeling.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Ed,

 

Many thanks for posting these...  All are very appealing.  To my eye, and from having studied Momoyama era Oribe ware a bit, the two kogo appear most likely to be period.  The chaire is a mayyybe, while the others look revivalist (i.e. 19th-century) or later.  The publication, Turning Point:  Oribe and the Arts of Sixteenth Century Japan Met Publications, 2003) is an invaluable book for those interested in Momoyama Period pottery, especially that connected with Tea, and even more so as concerns Furuta Oribe and the ware(s) that he is so intimately associated with.  In particular, there is a valuable set of images---some of Momoyama era kuro-Oribe pieces, and then of 19th-century revivalist pieces---for comparison purposes.  Highly recommended.  :)

 

Cheers,

 

Steve

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Actually Ed...that was a joke. 

I suspected as much, hence the smilie at the end of my statement.  But good to know none the less :-)

 

 

 

Steve, Thanks for your thoughts and the book recommendation.  I have not seen this book but may buy a copy for a little more insight.  

 

Quite honestly I have never taken the time nor had much desire to study pottery at length.  For me, it is a fun thing I enjoy without the desire to become too knowledgable. If it catches my eye and makes me smile, that is sufficient. 

 

Thanks again,

Ed

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

We must keep in mind that the true measure of a chawan is how well one can make a perfect bowl of tea (especially koicha) for the pure enjoyment of one's guest... but I digress from the discussion of the bowl as art. Just thought there wasn't enough controversy in this thread... still have to learn how to add a smiley when posting from iphone...

 

Mark S.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hello Philip,

 

Glad you like the colours, as I do.They are vivid, but much softer than on the photos of the online site from where I bought it. I expect to be also a difference in colours for the "cruel" tokkuri, as the photos I posted here were taken by the same gallery; if so, I'll post some "homemade" pics when I receive it.

 

I have no educated thoughts about Japanese attitudes to colours in pottery, only a preference for Iga wares, often so colourful. Here are photos of a tokkuri I would have bought with no hesitation  if I had had the opportunity (Kazuhiro Fukushima). 

 

Bernard D

post-2604-0-24286300-1427368579_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hello Bernard

 

Lovely tokkuri! Great bidoro and I really like the square lip.

 

On the subject of colour in J art I'm certainly no expert. Every time someone Japanese comes over they comment on a small collection of Oriental rugs I keep on the wall. As you know rugs are about colour above all else. Design and so on comes second etc. All these people tell me that for the Japanse it's the same. Maybe someone with more knowledge can comment?

 

I'm looking forward to seeing yr pics of the new tokkuri.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hello:

 This forum,started by Brian on the 17th is just great. My wife and I left for Japan on the 18th and just returned a couple of days ago and it is surprising to see so much posted on yaki of various types in the intervening days. Kyoto was our base and attending the two well know outdoor "antique" markets there, Toji and Kitano-tenmangu, held each month on the 21st and 25th, were high on our list of familiar haunts. Ceramics are always looked for, but now in more recent years there are acres and acres (almost it seems) of semi-deceptive Chinese ceramics, along with every other type of deceptive look alike you could imagine. I know that has probably always been so to some extent, but now the mass of obviously "bad" stuff is sort of shocking and as a probably consequence we now see fewer and fewer foreign dealer/hunters on the prowl.

 I was happy to find one nice Hagi chawan, and having failed to convert enough USD into JPY, I was happy that the dealer would take greenbacks. This prompts two questions:

 1. The bowl shows considerable staining from  real use. Is that best left alone or should it be cleaned to some extent to reveal more of the interior glaze features? I suppose there are two schools of thought at least. I once found a beautiful Ido bowl in Seattle which was very stained, temporized on the purchase and went back the next day to buy it - which I did anyway, but by then it had been returned to what most be its "original state" and a lot of the charm was gone.

 2. Does anyone know of any stateside dealers who sell good material this side of stratospheric prices?

 Cheers,

 Arnold F.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Chashibu is the word for staining from use. Hagi is said to go through 7 stages owing to the porous nature of the clay. You can clean it if you want to but the staining will return and certainly it adds to the interest when examing the activities inside the bowl.

 

Here are 2 yunomi from the same set. You can see the one which has seen the greatest use shows the most interest.

post-427-0-63607400-1427751521_thumb.jpg

post-427-0-45825200-1427751538_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This thread is quite old. Please consider starting a new thread rather than reviving this one, unless your post is really relevant and adds to the topic..

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...