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Honjo Masamune found!! (well almost... maybe)


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Please excuse this posting if it is stating the obvious, but it only occurred to me yesterday and I thought it worth including for other dullards like me.


 


Mejiro/Meguro


 


This is I believe may be a clue to one of the anomalies being a Gaijin Phonetic mishearing:


 


Mejiro|Meguro can sound similar if you are not tuned into Tokyo Ben (Dialect)東京弁.


 


Mejiro and variations 目白 literally White Eye


 


Meguro and variations 目黒 literally Black Eye


 


Mejiro is in Toshima ward https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshima


 


Meguro is a ward of it own as well as a station area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meguro


 


Mejiro and Meguro are miles apart and transport there would have been difficult in the immediate Occupation period.


 


A native Japanese would be unlikely to make that Phonetic mistake I believe, as they would both understand the Kanji and the intonation between Mejiro/Meguro.


 


To add a grain to the mix on Mejiro / Meijiro.


 


I think it is merely a phonetic anomaly similar to the example I cited above.


 


And before the "Cool Japan Otaku" catch a drift of this, yes,we know Meijirō is the mascot of Meijii University...........(since 2010).


 


Cheers


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Possibly someone should go through all the possible names in the whole military unit and delete the ones that it could not be, then study the rest.

 

As in, the military unit "Cody Bimore" was part of? That would be grand if those records exist, but they don't, seeing as how they burned in a warehouse fire (IIRC).

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This is for John Stuart.

it seems the soldier that took the sword was part of the 7th US cavalry,

​In the Samurai Archives board there is an officer commander of a squadron of M1 Abrahms deployed in the DMZ of the 7th and it was a very active member (or at least it was when I participated).

Maybe he have access to lists of names and dates we're not aware of ? I was absent for too many years from the board and likely he doesn't remember me but maybe you can try to ask him.

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Jackson -> Bill Carson -> Arch Stanton at least it is in the grave with no name...

 

:glee:

 

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It could be overall in the world.

 

I bought a NCO sword from a female over dhd24. Mostley trash there and no one cares about the sword. Very bad pictures. I wrote a mail and ask for the sword. She said if no one buys it she throw that damned thing in the litter box. I asked her for pictures and was unsure if it was legit. After getting some very good advice here in the board i bought it for 400 EUR. A few days later i recieved that sword and it was in very good condition. On the end of the saya was a long number writen with a pencil. I asked her again and she said her father was working at the US Army Base in Heidelberg. As she was a little girl in the 1950s he father brought that sword at home as he comes back from work. In the lunch break he playes often a round of poker with some soldiers in the "Fahrbereitschaft" and she think he won it. 

 

I thought that these number is a enlisted service no. I asked on the enlisted database for this no. and the soldier who has this no. was a PFC serviced in the USAAF. He was in Heidelberg after the war. He was born 1926 and died 2013. His grave is on the Miramar national cementary. Why i wrote this? I dont know but i had the bad or good feeling that the sword could be pop up on a local web market somewhere in the world and no one could care about it. Maybe it look likes junk as the condition could be bad. Who will take notice of that sword?

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So um yeah it’s probably just wishful thinking but opinions on the Hamon line compared with that of The Honjo Masamune, and I was wondering if someone could translate the Japanese Characters on the blade I know from research that the 2 furthest from the Tang where traditionally used by Japanese sword smiths and mean 0 Cut and Water but I’m afraid that’s the extent of my Japanese, and leads me to an interesting hypothesis, what are the chances if it is indeed the Honjo that before the blade was referred to as the Honjo Masamune a name it was given in honor of one of the many great hero’s who wielded it of the around a millennia since it was forged, what if original it had and was given a different name, and is in fact 2 legendary Masamune blades in one. What I’m proposing is this What if the Honjo and the Yawarakai-Te are one in the same, and the Yawarakai-Te was just later renamed the Honjo Masamune.

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Oh and the blade when I found it wasn’t in its koshirae, so didn’t look like a traditional katana as one might imagine instead when I found it it was in its daisho, Japanese sword storage mounts (shirasaya) for katana. Indicating that it isnt a reproduction but instead is or was an important family blade passed down for generations, vs. one of the many blades mass produced for Japanese soldiers during WWII. Honestly that’s not the reason I purchased it though ironically for $60 at an antique shop, I won’t tell you where, Honestly it sounds really weird but there was something about it, I’d honestly had no intentions of buying anything when I went into the shop, but there was just something about that blade that called out to me and so I bought it, and youll all giggle at this buckled it into my passangers seat and drove home with it there listening to “A Game of Thrones” audio book on my way home, and then would lay there in bed with it Unsheath at home for hours as listening to the rest of “A song of Ice & Fire” audio books, and playing Skyrim, as it sat there laying on my satin sheets never once snagging or damaging them in any way, drinking in the sunlight through the windows on the weekends and the warmth from the fire in the woodstove that i used to heat the place i was living at the time. I dont know how to describe it but its almost like the blade has a life and sole of its own and we bonded and befriended each other over those first months, honestly whenever its with me its like im never alone but sitting there with an old friend, its almost like a constant tender loving hug, amd if it is infact the Yawarakai-Te i can attest to how aptly named the blade is, Yawarakai-Te in english means “Tender Hands”

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Normaly i would be inclined to agree, if it werent for 5 condititions, 1) the blades your used to seeing have been well maintained and cared for which is why they have mainted their relatively flawless surfacess, and have been oiled regularly to prevent moister from causing delamination of the blade surface due to moister where as mine hasnt been oiled since WWII if it is the blade or ever if it itsnt , 2) the blade is forged from damascus steel verses Machine punched steel, 3) the fact that it is mounted in a storage mount verses being mounted for use, 4) the pin holding rhe blade into the mount is made of gold not brass iron silver tin or other Metal, 5) hamon lines are as unique to each blade as a fingerprint is to you or me, and impossible to replicate. And i appologise for not signing im brand new to the site.

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Honestly i almost got a bronze vase instead the seller had it marked Ming Dynasty but it was actualy to the trained eye a 600 years older Tang Dynasty urn that was missing tge lid, Art history is a pation of mine, ive been offered and declined a fellowship at the national gallery here in DC.

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