jason_mazzy Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 This is a saved mei in the Orikaeshi Mei setup. It is well worn. I will attach several pictures and an album link. Your assistance would be very appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jason_mazzy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/ii82 ... /Japanese/ above linkis to the album. I tried getting individual kanji. Then\se are tough, but someone thought enough about em to keep em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Looks like 備州長船 宗吉 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I think that the mei reads Bishu Osafune Yasumitsu (備州長舩康光). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Doffin Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I also think Yasumitsu. Grey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 OK, I'll go with that. I was looking at pic 3 only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_mazzy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 it has double bo hi (soe hi?) and a kanji hormino on bothsides in the midle. Lots of nioie in the hamon kinda cloudy and has these little swirls above the hamon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Lots of nioie Jason, Is it a neologism for nioi/nie Concerning Yasumitsu it has been discussed at length for the last 3 months, so you will find all that is necessary to know on this smith with the search button at the top of this page. Links are also provided so you will not have much difficulties to find what is a soe bi. You must search the light by yoursef and as a last resort, call upon your NMB brothers when you have made up your mind/drawn a conclusion:D http://www.aoi-art.com/sword/wakizashi/12525.html http://www.nihonto.com/5.3.11.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_mazzy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I don't type especially well from an iPhone. Not sure where the extra e came from. This phone freezes while typing or auto corrects then I have to go back if I catch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_mazzy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Tank all of you for your assistance. I don't know how you got it so fast. I have the sword in hand and I cannot even find all the kanji. You guys are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques D. Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Hi, Many things seem odd on that sword, is it possible to see a picture of the whole nakago including machi ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiro49 Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 This offended the author... My bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NihontoEurope Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 中国 偽 期間 /Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_mazzy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 now its a chinese copy? hrmmmmmmmmmm I assure you it is nihonto. Pictures forthcoming............. though I wasnt even trying to go this direction until I could study it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_mazzy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 My initial interest was in the koshirae as a potential daisho-ish project as i have another that is close. As will be seen the blade needs a polish. In the dark with a bright light I can see the jigane and activity, near impossible to capture with a camera so I apologize for the crappy photos. The blade has seen many many polishes but has surprisingly few loose grain or kitae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A Stuart Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Martin, what do you mean by 中国 偽 期間 ?? China wrong period?? Not Chinese and how is it simulating another period? Great koshirae BTW. I've always liked handachi. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jason_mazzy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Many more located here: http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/ii82/jason_mazzy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_mazzy Posted December 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Pretty sure it's not a Chinese fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NihontoEurope Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Martin, what do you mean by 中国 偽 期間 ?? China wrong period?? Not Chinese and how is it simulating another period? Great koshirae BTW. I've always liked handachi. John I was referring to the pictures when following the url, which is now removed, where the kissaki looked strange. When looking at these pictures here it looks not like Chinese. The pictures on the url target was not so good, almost like the person behind the camera wanted to show and hide at the same time. Can we see the Kissaki here? /Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Real one, but not Yasumitsu, wrong nioi guchi, do not see Oei Jigane in the shinogi ji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_mazzy Posted December 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Martin if you go to the album link there should be a kisaki photo. I cannot capture the Boshi well but I assure you it is there. Edit: iPhone autocorrect is does not like Japanese terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques D. Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hi, Very likely gimei. Jean About Oei jigane, Yasumitsu made different styles of jigane. Another orikaeshimei (this one is well done) http://www.tokka.biz/sword/yasumitsu2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Rule of thumb: Study the work look at the mei restudy the work ttp://www.nihonto.com/abtartshodaiyasumitsu.html If you refer to the jigane, have a look at the article here above, to the Nihonto Koza and to Yamanaka letters. Your example provided Jacques is classical of Bizen Oei as well in jihada as in hamon The more important thing is that the jitetsu is fine and goes from the hira ji to the shinogi ji and that the hamon is nioi deki. Two kinds of Hamon in Yasumitsu, koshi no Hira ita mixed with Gunome choji or suguha, in all cases nioi deki. This blade is not nioi deki, and there are long sunagashi you won't find in Yasumitsu (have a look at the hamon pictures provided) futhermore, in Yasumitsu work, the nioi line (nioi guchi) tends to be of the same width throughout the hamon, very controlled very far from this blade. Take your example, look at the nioi guchi: tight, equal throughout the blade very skillfull and controlled. Nothing to do with this blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiro49 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 http://www.nihonto.com/abtartshodaiyasumitsu.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Thanks Matt, I had just posted the link in my post above yours :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques D. Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hi, Jean, If you refer to the jigane, have a look at the article here above, to the Nihonto Koza and to Yamanaka letters Jean, Nihonto Koza, koto 3, page 352. Jitetsu : As for works with midareba, those in which fairly coarse mokume hada that is well wrought and with ji-nie are the most common, When it is suguha those in which ko-mokume hada is tight, with ji-nie, and beautiful are the most common, in particular, in pieces of around Eikyô there are some with beautiful fine hada that is juste like nashiji hada, in these types of pieces, even the rust of the nakago is very clean, and thay are not rusted with a soiled look. In all of them bo utsuri appears very clearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Thanks Matt, I had just posted the link in my post above yours :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Jacques, in Eikkyo, here we are talking about Oei Bizen and not Eikkyo Bizen, because of the coarse hada BTW find me an example of the second generation with nashiji hada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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